These people are just Evil Scum
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Its been huge news here for the past week or more, and yes it is truly horrifying how humans can do that to any living thing let alone a baby. Unfortunatly no amount of leglislation will stop this from happening again. Its been barely 5 years since the last time this london borough was in the spotlight for a similar case that "slipped through the net". Lets just hope whatever prison guard is looking after them knows how to boil a kettle - and I dont mean to make a nice cup of tea!
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The So Called "Parents" (Killers is a better word) of Baby P I will actually warn you after reading this, it makes for some horrific reading the treatment of this child. I have had to step out of the office for a minute as its left me visibily shaken. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7727641.stm[^] In my opinion these people are lower than terrorists. They do not deserve to live.
This is disgusting. To see that a human, for want of a better word, would do and be so inhumane to anything alive, much less a child one that is yet incapable of fending for itself or reaching out for help other than screaming its lungs out in an attempt to alert the world that it is in need of aid, such base humans do not deserve a life in my opinion. Stuffing them in a meat grinder is too good for them. I honestly cannot think of a proper judgment. As the father of an 8 month old, I would willingly and without a second thought to my well-being do anything in my power to protect him as I would for any other child out of compassion. I am sick to my stomach.
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The So Called "Parents" (Killers is a better word) of Baby P I will actually warn you after reading this, it makes for some horrific reading the treatment of this child. I have had to step out of the office for a minute as its left me visibily shaken. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7727641.stm[^] In my opinion these people are lower than terrorists. They do not deserve to live.
I will not read it. I am a cynical, hardbitten, lived-in guy. I have seen awful things over the years, and I cannot bear to read about what they did to that poor child. It brings me close to tears. These Fuckers need to be left in a room with some really hard people and have done to them what they did to him.
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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The So Called "Parents" (Killers is a better word) of Baby P I will actually warn you after reading this, it makes for some horrific reading the treatment of this child. I have had to step out of the office for a minute as its left me visibily shaken. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7727641.stm[^] In my opinion these people are lower than terrorists. They do not deserve to live.
Assuming they are found guilty.... As our society no longer uses the death sentence for these sort of people, all we have to do is put them in a prison and let the other inmates know who they are and why they are there. Even hardened criminals don't like child killers - I'm sure they would deal with the situation effectively. Of course we'll get some namby-pamby do-gooder saying that they should be kept in solitary confinement "for their own safety". Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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Assuming they are found guilty.... As our society no longer uses the death sentence for these sort of people, all we have to do is put them in a prison and let the other inmates know who they are and why they are there. Even hardened criminals don't like child killers - I'm sure they would deal with the situation effectively. Of course we'll get some namby-pamby do-gooder saying that they should be kept in solitary confinement "for their own safety". Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
Baconbutty wrote:
Even hardened criminals don't like child killers - I'm sure they would deal with the situation effectively.
Baconbutty wrote:
let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
That would be the least they deserve. Heck, care should be taken to prolong their health after prejudice actions have been taken simply to make the ensuing torture endure some more.
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Baconbutty wrote:
Even hardened criminals don't like child killers - I'm sure they would deal with the situation effectively.
Baconbutty wrote:
let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
That would be the least they deserve. Heck, care should be taken to prolong their health after prejudice actions have been taken simply to make the ensuing torture endure some more.
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I am not a doctor, but I could keep them alive for weeks!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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I am not a doctor, but I could keep them alive for weeks!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
even an hour more is good, but the more the better...
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Its been huge news here for the past week or more, and yes it is truly horrifying how humans can do that to any living thing let alone a baby. Unfortunatly no amount of leglislation will stop this from happening again. Its been barely 5 years since the last time this london borough was in the spotlight for a similar case that "slipped through the net". Lets just hope whatever prison guard is looking after them knows how to boil a kettle - and I dont mean to make a nice cup of tea!
J4amieC wrote:
Unfortunatly no amount of leglislation will stop this from happening again.
Exactly. This has been going on since the dawn of time and I expect it always will. What it does do is give the hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade another opportunity to bring in yet more constricting and intrusive legislation to further pry into our lives.
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Assuming they are found guilty.... As our society no longer uses the death sentence for these sort of people, all we have to do is put them in a prison and let the other inmates know who they are and why they are there. Even hardened criminals don't like child killers - I'm sure they would deal with the situation effectively. Of course we'll get some namby-pamby do-gooder saying that they should be kept in solitary confinement "for their own safety". Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
Baconbutty wrote:
Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
I disagree. (I have a four month old that I love very much but revenge is not the way.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Baconbutty wrote:
Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
I disagree. (I have a four month old that I love very much but revenge is not the way.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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J4amieC wrote:
Unfortunatly no amount of leglislation will stop this from happening again.
Exactly. This has been going on since the dawn of time and I expect it always will. What it does do is give the hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade another opportunity to bring in yet more constricting and intrusive legislation to further pry into our lives.
Actually the legislation already exists to have prevented this from happening, but the one social worker was ignored even after several letters were written, and police were ignored even after saying they didn't think the child would be safe. Those responsible in Harringay Council should face charges and there should be no more of the Political Correctness bollocks that helped to cause this.
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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The So Called "Parents" (Killers is a better word) of Baby P I will actually warn you after reading this, it makes for some horrific reading the treatment of this child. I have had to step out of the office for a minute as its left me visibily shaken. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7727641.stm[^] In my opinion these people are lower than terrorists. They do not deserve to live.
GriffinPeter wrote:
They do not deserve to live
Well, provided they're not given any protection from fellow prisoners' justice, your wish may be granted.
Kevin
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Baconbutty wrote:
Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
I disagree. (I have a four month old that I love very much but revenge is not the way.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
This is not revenge, its a punishment that fits the crime. Or as much as possible.
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Baconbutty wrote:
Nah - let them be hideously tortured, mutilated and finally terminated with an excess of prejudice.
I disagree. (I have a four month old that I love very much but revenge is not the way.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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You're right. Howsoever obnoxious the crimes were, no amount of revenge will bring back that child. No amount of revenge will stop similar happening again.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
No amount of revenge will stop similar happening again
Actually, a well publicised flogging might make others think before doing it! Pour encourager les autres?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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This is not revenge, its a punishment that fits the crime. Or as much as possible.
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Revenge perhaps is what society demands. A conviction and sentence in a court of Criminal Law should legally satisfy societies demands. Unless you are suggesting adoption of some kind of "Eye for an eye" judgement, in which case, that in a "civilised" country will never happen.
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Paul Watson wrote:
I disagree.
So if that happened to your child what would you want to happen?
Well, I'd be imprisoned for a long, long time and hopefully be rehabilitated. I'd want to be set to work though, not just sat in a cell and expect to be miraculously rehabilitated. I should be shown the horror of my crime everyday and given the chance, skills and guidance to help, to grow an awareness of my actions and inactions. I've been thinking about this sort of thing for the past 13 months now (since I learned I was to be a father.) What would I want if someone harmed my child. I don't want revenge, I don't want an eye for an eye, I don't want anyone else to suffer anymore than my child, my partner and I have suffered. I want whomever harmed my child to become fully aware of the pain they caused and then for them to change their life around and contribute to society. That would be the sweetest revenge. "Feel our pain, see what you have done to us." Torturing that man who tortured the child would have only a detrimental affect on him. He would see it as a continuation of the existence in his own head, a world of pain and madness. It would push him further away from society and his own actions would only become worse. It would also debase the torturer and society further.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
No amount of revenge will stop similar happening again
Actually, a well publicised flogging might make others think before doing it! Pour encourager les autres?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Well, I'd be imprisoned for a long, long time and hopefully be rehabilitated. I'd want to be set to work though, not just sat in a cell and expect to be miraculously rehabilitated. I should be shown the horror of my crime everyday and given the chance, skills and guidance to help, to grow an awareness of my actions and inactions. I've been thinking about this sort of thing for the past 13 months now (since I learned I was to be a father.) What would I want if someone harmed my child. I don't want revenge, I don't want an eye for an eye, I don't want anyone else to suffer anymore than my child, my partner and I have suffered. I want whomever harmed my child to become fully aware of the pain they caused and then for them to change their life around and contribute to society. That would be the sweetest revenge. "Feel our pain, see what you have done to us." Torturing that man who tortured the child would have only a detrimental affect on him. He would see it as a continuation of the existence in his own head, a world of pain and madness. It would push him further away from society and his own actions would only become worse. It would also debase the torturer and society further.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
It's funny, I too am a father, and if anyone did that to my son, I would kill them, slowly. I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
You want to re-introduce into law the concept of Corporal Punishment ?
And capital punishment, I would volunteer to the Executioner.
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop