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  • T Tom Deketelaere

    Paul Watson wrote:

    /girlfriend.

    :-D

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    Paul Watson
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    Always try a girlfriend out before buying a fiance.

    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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    • T Todd Smith

      The new Dell Adamo[^] looks like a nice alternative to Apple if you don't need/want OSX.

      Todd Smith

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      Paul Watson
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      The Adamo is lovely to look at but it is a MacBook Air competitor and pretty pricey at that. I guess if you need it that thin then go for it, otherwise a 13" MacBook does well.

      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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      • T ToddHileHoffer

        rastaVnuce wrote:

        I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

        You are hard core... Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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        realJSOP
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        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

        Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

        Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • P Paul Watson

          Actually, they have no buttons now.

          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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          hairy_hats
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          So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            ToddHileHoffer wrote:

            Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

            Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            ToddHileHoffer
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

            The OP hasn't spent any money yet. He is using Linux.

            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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            • H hairy_hats

              So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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              Paul Watson
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              Yes, that is exactly it. Well done.

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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              • P Paul Watson

                Actually, they have no buttons now.

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                ToddHileHoffer
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                Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                • T ToddHileHoffer

                  Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                  hairy_hats
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                  IIRC pushing down on it makes it click.

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                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                    Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    Paul Watson
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                    On the laptops the trackpad is one big button, press near the bottom and it depresses a bit with a nice click sound (physical, not out of the speakers.) You can see a video of it here[^]. Sounds odd but it works very well in practice, I can't bear going back even to older MacBooks with the physically separate buttons. With the Mighty Mouse the whole chassis leans forward for a click. Tilt left for a left click, tilt right for a right click.

                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      IIRC pushing down on it makes it click.

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                      ToddHileHoffer
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                      That is just weird.

                      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                      • P PTJA

                        African or European swallow? :-)

                        -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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                        ToddHileHoffer
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                        PTJA wrote:

                        African or European swallow? Smile

                        Shouldn't you have said, "Check out the big brain on Brad!"? I have no idea what you are referencing.

                        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Always try a girlfriend out before buying a fiance.

                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                          Tom Deketelaere
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                          True but it was funny in the row :) Bar (or anywhere else) conversation: You: hi there She: hi You: can I try you out first, before committing to a relationship? She: [fill in yourself] :)

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                            PTJA wrote:

                            African or European swallow? Smile

                            Shouldn't you have said, "Check out the big brain on Brad!"? I have no idea what you are referencing.

                            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            The Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail[^]

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                            • R rastaVnuce

                              Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                              To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                              RichardM1
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                              I have nothing against macs as computers, it is just the generally superior air that mac people think they are entitled to. I have not developed on a mac in a long time (floppies were the common mode of data transfer), but they were OK. I spent 5 years working with and developing on NeXT boxes, and they were wonderful. That is relevant because OSX is NeXT STEP repackaged. Only real issue with mac is that you are locked into more expensive app with it, in general. You need to make up your own mind. I assume you have windows experience, and don't need to test it out. I hope I'm going to catch a lot of crap for this, but you might want to go to a pirate site and TRY I repeat TRY, but only for the purpose of deciding which you want, to download a hacked version that will run on most X86 clone boxes. Check it out and delete it. I'm am expressly telling you NOT to use one for any length of time, both from a stealing IP view, and because the hacked versions I have heard about are not as stable as the real versions on real hardware.

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                Researcher cracks Mac in 10 seconds at PWN2OWN, wins $5K[^] But aside from that (and the Win7 crack that article mentions) you need to work out who will be using the machine and why. I have a Mac and it's the last one I'm ever getting. Others find it far more intuitive than Windows but personally I find it infuriating: It uses the 'it's so obvious we don't need to provide help' system of providing help. And sometimes it really isn't obvious. And the docking bar always getting in the way of trying to resize a window because you can only resize from the bottom right hand corner thing kills me. But iPhoto, iDvd etc work great (though Picasso from Google is pretty damn good too) and Macs can run Windows, so you get a nice looking laptop (with the odd keyboard) to run your Windows apps and have a test bed for when testing against Mac. The thing that kills me though is the cost of the things. Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Lost User
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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                                I've compared the iMac to the Dell and HP all-in-ones and have found the Apple to be the better value. I've compared the new MacBook's to Sony, Dell, HP and Toshiba and when you compare processors, FSB speed, memory, display quality, graphics speed and build quality the Macs compare pretty darn well. MacBook Pro's are a bit pricey compared to the competition but if you REALLY compare identical features (which is actually very difficult) it's not as bad as it looks initially.

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                                • T Tom Deketelaere

                                  True but it was funny in the row :) Bar (or anywhere else) conversation: You: hi there She: hi You: can I try you out first, before committing to a relationship? She: [fill in yourself] :)

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Tom Deketelaere wrote:

                                  You: hi there She: hi You: can I try you out first, before committing to a relationship? She: [fill in yourself]

                                  Bouncer: Grabs you and heaves You: bounce on sidewalk

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                  • R rastaVnuce

                                    Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                                    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                                    Ed Leighton Dick
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                                    rastaVnuce wrote:

                                    Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                                    For me, yes. I started using Macs at home about 6 years ago, mainly because I wanted something different to play with than what I use at work every day. I like the clean design of the hardware and the OS, and I like that I can run Windows if I want to. I also find that, for what I tend to do at home, I seem to have to tinker with things less on my Mac. And yes, I still do like that it's not what I work on all the time. :-D In the end, it comes down to personal preference. Some people really like Macs, some people don't. You just have to try it to find out. Ed

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Researcher cracks Mac in 10 seconds at PWN2OWN, wins $5K[^] But aside from that (and the Win7 crack that article mentions) you need to work out who will be using the machine and why. I have a Mac and it's the last one I'm ever getting. Others find it far more intuitive than Windows but personally I find it infuriating: It uses the 'it's so obvious we don't need to provide help' system of providing help. And sometimes it really isn't obvious. And the docking bar always getting in the way of trying to resize a window because you can only resize from the bottom right hand corner thing kills me. But iPhoto, iDvd etc work great (though Picasso from Google is pretty damn good too) and Macs can run Windows, so you get a nice looking laptop (with the odd keyboard) to run your Windows apps and have a test bed for when testing against Mac. The thing that kills me though is the cost of the things. Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Hans Dietrich
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                                      It's clear from your post that you don't hate Microsoft enough to want to swallow all the Mac shortcomings. Ask Christian for some tips.

                                      Best wishes, Hans


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                                      • P Paul Watson

                                        Actually, they have no buttons now.

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        No, the entire upper chassis of the mouse is a single giant button.

                                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                          No, the entire upper chassis of the mouse is a single giant button.

                                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                          Paul Watson
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                                          Not quite, you can't click by pushing down on the back of the mouse (got one in my hand right now.) And on the track-pads it is at the bottom, can't click up at the top (unless you have tap-to-click turned on for the entire track-pad.)

                                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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