PhotoShop 7 makes killer JPGs
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http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=003j8d[^] PS7 generates JPGs with some extra data in them that causes IE and Outlook to die. cool! MS products seem to be the only ones suffering from these killer JPGs. -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: MS products seem to be the only ones suffering from these killer JPGs. I am confused. You mention that only MS products are afflicted by these problems, but you link to an article which in the first line mentions that "However they break many applications, including Quark". While it is no excuse for MS (and the problem is potentially worse because of IE) I do think we should be fair and mention that "many applications" are afflicted with this problem. Personally I blame Adobe for this problem. They should have tested their output and realised it was best not to make the XML info a default option but rather an optional extra.
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Chris Losinger wrote: MS products seem to be the only ones suffering from these killer JPGs. I am confused. You mention that only MS products are afflicted by these problems, but you link to an article which in the first line mentions that "However they break many applications, including Quark". While it is no excuse for MS (and the problem is potentially worse because of IE) I do think we should be fair and mention that "many applications" are afflicted with this problem. Personally I blame Adobe for this problem. They should have tested their output and realised it was best not to make the XML info a default option but rather an optional extra.
Paul Watson
BlueGrassGroup.com
Cape Town, South AfricaIt is a problem both MS and Adobe should fix. 1. MS should fix because it is a bug in their software. 2. Adobe should make a temp fix because their customers are having problems using their software for websites. That is the reality of software development. Sure, it isn't Adobe's fault, but sometimes you still have to change your software to make your customers happy. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Christian Graus wrote: I'm sorry Chris, I'm the one who has been inciting this moron. I never called you as a moron. Behave yourself!!!! Christian Graus wrote: It's really funny how some people like to attack others for things they never said. Chris actually didn't say anything bad about Microsoft I was just telling the people's attitude towards Microsoft, In general. Nothing as such against you or Chris Losinger. You just called me as moron!! Do you care to explain for insulting me and what made you to call me as a moron? I guess these message boards are created to have some intelligent discussions, not for threatening, abusing, or insulting someone. VB,ASP, C#, ASP.NET, VB.NET, Oracle, SQL Server. -------------------------------------------------- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." - Bjarne Stroustrup
Ranjith wrote: I guess these message boards are created to have some intelligent discussions, not for threatening, abusing, or insulting someone. You've been a member for eighteen months and you still think that?! ;P
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It is a problem both MS and Adobe should fix. 1. MS should fix because it is a bug in their software. 2. Adobe should make a temp fix because their customers are having problems using their software for websites. That is the reality of software development. Sure, it isn't Adobe's fault, but sometimes you still have to change your software to make your customers happy. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Tim Smith wrote: It is a problem both MS and Adobe should fix. True, that is the better option. Though I must stress that if MS made some before non-default option default in the, lets say, next VC++ compiler which made your apps not work on anything below Windows XP you would be pissed off. Same here, Adobe have switched on this XML info option without much thought to the consequences. Tim Smith wrote: That is the reality of software development. Sure, it isn't Adobe's fault, but sometimes you still have to change your software to make your customers happy. I think it was you who pointed out on another thread how change for change sake is not good, but a neccesity in any case.
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Chris Losinger wrote: MS products seem to be the only ones suffering from these killer JPGs. I am confused. You mention that only MS products are afflicted by these problems, but you link to an article which in the first line mentions that "However they break many applications, including Quark". While it is no excuse for MS (and the problem is potentially worse because of IE) I do think we should be fair and mention that "many applications" are afflicted with this problem. Personally I blame Adobe for this problem. They should have tested their output and realised it was best not to make the XML info a default option but rather an optional extra.
Paul Watson
BlueGrassGroup.com
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Chris Losinger wrote: but, you have to admit, quark could disappear tomorrow and 85% of the world wouldn't care. Yup, I do admit :) Chris Losinger wrote: those other 15% would be pissed, but they'd pick up something else quickly Man I know some Quark users and they are as die hard fanatics as the worst *nix fan. Also most DTP type stuff is done in Quark and there are a lot of DTP users out there. Anyway, enough about this, it is a friday afternoon! :-D
Paul Watson
BlueGrassGroup.com
Cape Town, South Africa