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All future versions of Windows to phone home?

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    Is there any general consumer version of Windows (after XP) that doesn't phone home or require periodic Internet connectivity to be not annoying? Right now, I'm happy with my Windows XP machines (a few which purposely lack Internet connectivity) because they don't have to have an Internet connection to have everything working perfectly (e.g., the lack of "your copy of Windows may be illegitimate" messages), but a few more years later I might have to make the leap. Currently, almost all retail versions of Windows (save for the enterprise editions that can activate using a KMV server) require activation. I'm aware of pre-installed OEM versions that don't need to be activated, but I like to build my own systems, have high quality hardware, zero crap ware, and a system setup done by myself. Linux seems to be tempting, but it's still not a viable desktop alternative and won't be in the near future. (I don't know how many times I've lied to myself when I said I would use Linux on a daily basis; I missed Photoshop, Visual Studio, Office, …; VMWare's Unity couldn't solve the problem.)


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      Is there any general consumer version of Windows (after XP) that doesn't phone home or require periodic Internet connectivity to be not annoying? Right now, I'm happy with my Windows XP machines (a few which purposely lack Internet connectivity) because they don't have to have an Internet connection to have everything working perfectly (e.g., the lack of "your copy of Windows may be illegitimate" messages), but a few more years later I might have to make the leap. Currently, almost all retail versions of Windows (save for the enterprise editions that can activate using a KMV server) require activation. I'm aware of pre-installed OEM versions that don't need to be activated, but I like to build my own systems, have high quality hardware, zero crap ware, and a system setup done by myself. Linux seems to be tempting, but it's still not a viable desktop alternative and won't be in the near future. (I don't know how many times I've lied to myself when I said I would use Linux on a daily basis; I missed Photoshop, Visual Studio, Office, …; VMWare's Unity couldn't solve the problem.)


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      After the one-time activation do Vista and Seven continue to phone home periodically? What happens if there is no internet connection?

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        After the one-time activation do Vista and Seven continue to phone home periodically? What happens if there is no internet connection?

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        In Vista (when it was released), the entire operating system would go into reduced functionality mode where it would become useless until it could verify again that it was legitimate. That's like DELL paying a visit to your home every month or so to make sure you didn't shoplift your DELL computer from Best Buy or something. (Paranoia?) Of course Vista no longer has reduced functionality mode, but it's still annoying when it accuses you of not using a legitimate copy of Windows during Internet outages.


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          In Vista (when it was released), the entire operating system would go into reduced functionality mode where it would become useless until it could verify again that it was legitimate. That's like DELL paying a visit to your home every month or so to make sure you didn't shoplift your DELL computer from Best Buy or something. (Paranoia?) Of course Vista no longer has reduced functionality mode, but it's still annoying when it accuses you of not using a legitimate copy of Windows during Internet outages.


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          Pretty sure that was removed from Vista almost immediately at release (maybe even before release).

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            Pretty sure that was removed from Vista almost immediately at release (maybe even before release).

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            I think that was done in Service Pack 1.


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              Is there any general consumer version of Windows (after XP) that doesn't phone home or require periodic Internet connectivity to be not annoying? Right now, I'm happy with my Windows XP machines (a few which purposely lack Internet connectivity) because they don't have to have an Internet connection to have everything working perfectly (e.g., the lack of "your copy of Windows may be illegitimate" messages), but a few more years later I might have to make the leap. Currently, almost all retail versions of Windows (save for the enterprise editions that can activate using a KMV server) require activation. I'm aware of pre-installed OEM versions that don't need to be activated, but I like to build my own systems, have high quality hardware, zero crap ware, and a system setup done by myself. Linux seems to be tempting, but it's still not a viable desktop alternative and won't be in the near future. (I don't know how many times I've lied to myself when I said I would use Linux on a daily basis; I missed Photoshop, Visual Studio, Office, …; VMWare's Unity couldn't solve the problem.)


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              You canm call in to get activated. internet connectivity is not required for any version of windows.

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                You canm call in to get activated. internet connectivity is not required for any version of windows.

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                I'd prefer to not have to do that.


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                  I think that was done in Service Pack 1.


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                  you could be right. I didn't read the rest of your post that indicated it was removed. My apologies.

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                    I'd prefer to not have to do that.


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                    If you won't connect your computer to the internet and you won't call in then I guess you can't use Windows. Use Linux or install an old copy of XP.

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                      I'd prefer to not have to do that.


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                      Lee, Gun-Woon wrote:

                      I'd prefer to not have to do that.

                      I think it's safe to say that Microsoft will continue activation. Welcome to Windows 2000, Linux (pick your distrib) or OSX

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                        Is there any general consumer version of Windows (after XP) that doesn't phone home or require periodic Internet connectivity to be not annoying? Right now, I'm happy with my Windows XP machines (a few which purposely lack Internet connectivity) because they don't have to have an Internet connection to have everything working perfectly (e.g., the lack of "your copy of Windows may be illegitimate" messages), but a few more years later I might have to make the leap. Currently, almost all retail versions of Windows (save for the enterprise editions that can activate using a KMV server) require activation. I'm aware of pre-installed OEM versions that don't need to be activated, but I like to build my own systems, have high quality hardware, zero crap ware, and a system setup done by myself. Linux seems to be tempting, but it's still not a viable desktop alternative and won't be in the near future. (I don't know how many times I've lied to myself when I said I would use Linux on a daily basis; I missed Photoshop, Visual Studio, Office, …; VMWare's Unity couldn't solve the problem.)


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                        You can get the corporate version (with slipstreamed key if you're lazy), doesn't require anything at all - besides some time and a computer to install it on. No activation or validation or whatever. Just works. edit: that was about XP. Don't know how well the corp version of Vista works. Maybe it doesn't even exist? I have no idea. But hey XP is faster anyway.

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                          You can get the corporate version (with slipstreamed key if you're lazy), doesn't require anything at all - besides some time and a computer to install it on. No activation or validation or whatever. Just works. edit: that was about XP. Don't know how well the corp version of Vista works. Maybe it doesn't even exist? I have no idea. But hey XP is faster anyway.

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          corp version of Vista

                          That sounds like an oxymoron to me.

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                            Lee, Gun-Woon wrote:

                            I'd prefer to not have to do that.

                            I think it's safe to say that Microsoft will continue activation. Welcome to Windows 2000, Linux (pick your distrib) or OSX

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                            Kevin Li Li Ken un
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                            Oh well, I guess I haven't got much of a choice then (damn pirates and Microsoft); it's OS X and Linux for the future.


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                              You can get the corporate version (with slipstreamed key if you're lazy), doesn't require anything at all - besides some time and a computer to install it on. No activation or validation or whatever. Just works. edit: that was about XP. Don't know how well the corp version of Vista works. Maybe it doesn't even exist? I have no idea. But hey XP is faster anyway.

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                              harold aptroot wrote:

                              Don't know how well the corp version of Vista works. Maybe it doesn't even exist?

                              Vista and Weven both have enterprise editions.

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