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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I can't imagine how C++ is competitive in the Windows world outside of niche markets

    There are TONS of software out there written in C++. Software that is still being extended. Hardly "niche" markets.

    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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    Gary Kirkham
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    Same thing's true of FORTRAN, but it is a niche market.

    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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    • L Lost User

      Not sure what KSS is (being of an age when TLAs tend to confuse me)! I'll ask my Afrikaaner daughter-in-law about poes, unless it's a really obscene word. :^)

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      Gary Kirkham
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      google knows all[^]

      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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      • L Lost User

        Not sure what KSS is (being of an age when TLAs tend to confuse me)! I'll ask my Afrikaaner daughter-in-law about poes, unless it's a really obscene word. :^)

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        Anthony Mushrow
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        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

        I'll ask my Afrikaaner daughter-in-law about poes, unless it's a really obscene word.

        You might want the check on google with define:poes before you do that.

        My current favourite word is: Delicious!

        -SK Genius

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Christian Graus wrote:

          I can't imagine how C++ is competitive in the Windows world outside of niche markets

          There are TONS of software out there written in C++. Software that is still being extended. Hardly "niche" markets.

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          Ed Poore
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          Don't forget the embedded world, sure it's not the desktop yet it's still a huge market and certainly not "niche".


          I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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          • A Anthony Mushrow

            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

            I'll ask my Afrikaaner daughter-in-law about poes, unless it's a really obscene word.

            You might want the check on google with define:poes before you do that.

            My current favourite word is: Delicious!

            -SK Genius

            Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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            Lost User
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            Just did that, thanks for the warning! I note that it's basically the same usage as (one of the uses of) English pussy :~

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              I'm looking into getting back into software development. I think this is the perfect opportunity to consider abandoning MS/.net and get on the solid platform that C++ has to offer. Are there any C++ programmers out there that program in C++ because they like it more than .net?

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              I love C++ and recently started using the Qt framework - you can compile your apps for Windows, Linux and the Mac (plus some other platforms) and the framework is superb. There is even a free IDE called Qt Creator that I cannot recommend highly enough. Download Qt and give it a spin - you won't regret it. http://qt.nokia.com/[^] http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools/developer-tools[^] Another excellent Windows framework is WTL - it's completely template based and is built on top of ATL. It's close to the metal - think of it as a layer above from a pure Win32 app. The documentation is lacking and the learning curve is steep, so if you're starting from scratch I personally think that Qt would your best bet.

              Blogging about Qt Creator

              modified on Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:05 PM

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              • B Brady Kelly

                Why are people down-voting CSS on this post? You might think he's a poes on the SoapBox, but a totally legitimate developer question should not attract down-votes. You people can often be such small minded poesses. (Sorry if I didn't spell that right)

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                I agree - it was a perfectly reasonable question and down-voting it just because of the posters history is just petty.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  If you want to do that, you'd do better to learn objective C and program for the Mac. I can't imagine how C++ is competitive in the Windows world outside of niche markets. Why would something that takes longer to work with, make you competitive. ( FWIW, I love C++, but the reality is, things like WPF are the future for Windows )

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Niche markets? You're joking right? I'll bet you my house than more of the apps I have installed on my home PC are written in C or C++ than they are .NET. :) Don't believe me? How about the following for starters (I have icons for them all on my home desktop): Google Chrome iTunes uTorrent Spotify Picasa Google Earth OpenOffice VLC Media Player Adobe Reader Notepad++ IrfanView WinAVI Easy CD-DA These are all niche apps right? I still like using C++ simply because I have much more control over dependencies. FWIW I write a combination of desktop and server apps that are installed on tens of thousands (perhaps more) of PCs worldwide and I'll tell you now that if I had to insist on a certain release of .NET to make this possible it would be highly unpopular (a deal-breaker in some cases - there are a lot of old PC's out there.) Niche? Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    I'm looking into getting back into software development. I think this is the perfect opportunity to consider abandoning MS/.net and get on the solid platform that C++ has to offer. Are there any C++ programmers out there that program in C++ because they like it more than .net?

                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                    Mike Diack
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                    Yup. I'm one such person. The syntax of Managed C++ and C++/CLR are both a mess, and like C# itself, are initially temptingly enough to C++ to make you think. "Yes this is good". But, they're annoyingly different enough, plus the screwy syntax of the .net C++ variants screws up a lot of existing tools. C# I can imagine is good for prototyping ideas, but I wouldn't want to use it full time. To me it feels I've lost control of things - plus the countless versions and huge run times are a serious pain for distributing.... Mike

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                    • L Lost User

                      I love C++ and recently started using the Qt framework - you can compile your apps for Windows, Linux and the Mac (plus some other platforms) and the framework is superb. There is even a free IDE called Qt Creator that I cannot recommend highly enough. Download Qt and give it a spin - you won't regret it. http://qt.nokia.com/[^] http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools/developer-tools[^] Another excellent Windows framework is WTL - it's completely template based and is built on top of ATL. It's close to the metal - think of it as a layer above from a pure Win32 app. The documentation is lacking and the learning curve is steep, so if you're starting from scratch I personally think that Qt would your best bet.

                      Blogging about Qt Creator

                      modified on Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:05 PM

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                      I wish you'd write more often...

                      If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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