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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I can't imagine how C++ is competitive in the Windows world outside of niche markets

    There are TONS of software out there written in C++. Software that is still being extended. Hardly "niche" markets.

    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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    Ed Poore
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    Don't forget the embedded world, sure it's not the desktop yet it's still a huge market and certainly not "niche".


    I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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    • A Anthony Mushrow

      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

      I'll ask my Afrikaaner daughter-in-law about poes, unless it's a really obscene word.

      You might want the check on google with define:poes before you do that.

      My current favourite word is: Delicious!

      -SK Genius

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      Lost User
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      Just did that, thanks for the warning! I note that it's basically the same usage as (one of the uses of) English pussy :~

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        I'm looking into getting back into software development. I think this is the perfect opportunity to consider abandoning MS/.net and get on the solid platform that C++ has to offer. Are there any C++ programmers out there that program in C++ because they like it more than .net?

        Fall of the Republic[^]

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        I love C++ and recently started using the Qt framework - you can compile your apps for Windows, Linux and the Mac (plus some other platforms) and the framework is superb. There is even a free IDE called Qt Creator that I cannot recommend highly enough. Download Qt and give it a spin - you won't regret it. http://qt.nokia.com/[^] http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools/developer-tools[^] Another excellent Windows framework is WTL - it's completely template based and is built on top of ATL. It's close to the metal - think of it as a layer above from a pure Win32 app. The documentation is lacking and the learning curve is steep, so if you're starting from scratch I personally think that Qt would your best bet.

        Blogging about Qt Creator

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        • B Brady Kelly

          Why are people down-voting CSS on this post? You might think he's a poes on the SoapBox, but a totally legitimate developer question should not attract down-votes. You people can often be such small minded poesses. (Sorry if I didn't spell that right)

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          I agree - it was a perfectly reasonable question and down-voting it just because of the posters history is just petty.

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          • C Christian Graus

            If you want to do that, you'd do better to learn objective C and program for the Mac. I can't imagine how C++ is competitive in the Windows world outside of niche markets. Why would something that takes longer to work with, make you competitive. ( FWIW, I love C++, but the reality is, things like WPF are the future for Windows )

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Niche markets? You're joking right? I'll bet you my house than more of the apps I have installed on my home PC are written in C or C++ than they are .NET. :) Don't believe me? How about the following for starters (I have icons for them all on my home desktop): Google Chrome iTunes uTorrent Spotify Picasa Google Earth OpenOffice VLC Media Player Adobe Reader Notepad++ IrfanView WinAVI Easy CD-DA These are all niche apps right? I still like using C++ simply because I have much more control over dependencies. FWIW I write a combination of desktop and server apps that are installed on tens of thousands (perhaps more) of PCs worldwide and I'll tell you now that if I had to insist on a certain release of .NET to make this possible it would be highly unpopular (a deal-breaker in some cases - there are a lot of old PC's out there.) Niche? Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              I'm looking into getting back into software development. I think this is the perfect opportunity to consider abandoning MS/.net and get on the solid platform that C++ has to offer. Are there any C++ programmers out there that program in C++ because they like it more than .net?

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              Yup. I'm one such person. The syntax of Managed C++ and C++/CLR are both a mess, and like C# itself, are initially temptingly enough to C++ to make you think. "Yes this is good". But, they're annoyingly different enough, plus the screwy syntax of the .net C++ variants screws up a lot of existing tools. C# I can imagine is good for prototyping ideas, but I wouldn't want to use it full time. To me it feels I've lost control of things - plus the countless versions and huge run times are a serious pain for distributing.... Mike

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                I love C++ and recently started using the Qt framework - you can compile your apps for Windows, Linux and the Mac (plus some other platforms) and the framework is superb. There is even a free IDE called Qt Creator that I cannot recommend highly enough. Download Qt and give it a spin - you won't regret it. http://qt.nokia.com/[^] http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools/developer-tools[^] Another excellent Windows framework is WTL - it's completely template based and is built on top of ATL. It's close to the metal - think of it as a layer above from a pure Win32 app. The documentation is lacking and the learning curve is steep, so if you're starting from scratch I personally think that Qt would your best bet.

                Blogging about Qt Creator

                modified on Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:05 PM

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                I wish you'd write more often...

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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