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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    VS2010 Ultimate

    The only way a human will own that is by going to the 'bay for pirates'... I suppose is a snap compared to Websphere which did retail some years ago around ~£60,000 GBP.

    Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      that's FIVE DIGITS in the price

      I can't imagine anyone purchasing that one. I mean, MSDN subscriptions make sense, even the Premium, but Ultimate is plain crazy, and it's for one single user.

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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      Dario Solera wrote:

      I can't imagine anyone purchasing that one.

      What happened to your "You get what you pay for" mantra? Surely the most expensive solution is best... ;P

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        If they just had one version and charged $50 for it they'd sell more than they could turn out.

        me, me, me

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        Jim Crafton
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        I presume you're joking, but a 300-500 price would be more realistic. And one version.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          How does this compare to previous versions? Is this a lot more expensive? The Pro version doesn't seem to off the mark.

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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            How does this compare to previous versions? Is this a lot more expensive? The Pro version doesn't seem to off the mark.

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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            realJSOP
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            *All* of Microsoft's pricing is off the mark.

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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              VS2010 Ultimate

              The only way a human will own that is by going to the 'bay for pirates'... I suppose is a snap compared to Websphere which did retail some years ago around ~£60,000 GBP.

              Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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              The only way I'd get that version is if it came with a lifetime supply of BBBBBBBB (Beautiful Blond Bimbos Bearing Big Bodacious Bouncing Breasts). BTW, the value "BBBBBBBB", when converted to binary is 10111011101110111011101110111011. This information is provided to keep the post somewhat programmer-specific.

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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                I'm glad they didn't just make up a price and say "$11,299". If it were that price you'd know they hadn't thought it through, but clearly at $11,294 they have done their best to scrape every last dollar off the price.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  I'm glad they didn't just make up a price and say "$11,299". If it were that price you'd know they hadn't thought it through, but clearly at $11,294 they have done their best to scrape every last dollar off the price.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  They should have scraped another $11,200 from the price. Only then it would have been obvious. :)

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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    The only way I'd get that version is if it came with a lifetime supply of BBBBBBBB (Beautiful Blond Bimbos Bearing Big Bodacious Bouncing Breasts). BTW, the value "BBBBBBBB", when converted to binary is 10111011101110111011101110111011. This information is provided to keep the post somewhat programmer-specific.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    Jim Crafton
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                    I wonder what the SKU for that would be? Maybe someone at Microsoft will blog about it :) It would at least be a more entertaining/interesting read than most of the crap they churn out.

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      How does this compare to previous versions? Is this a lot more expensive? The Pro version doesn't seem to off the mark.

                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                      It's very close to the previous pricing, it's just the names have changed. Change seems to confuse and scare people ;)

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        How does this compare to previous versions? Is this a lot more expensive? The Pro version doesn't seem to off the mark.

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                        The pro pricing is basically unchanged. Premium pricing is roughly inline with Team System Kitchen Sink edition. The $11k edition has no predecessor. Standard ($350) and Team System One Part Only ($2.5k) editions appear to be KIA.

                        The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                          I'm glad they didn't just make up a price and say "$11,299". If it were that price you'd know they hadn't thought it through, but clearly at $11,294 they have done their best to scrape every last dollar off the price.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          well yeah; we're in a recession don't you know. :rolleyes:

                          The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                            Wow... Just... wow... You know, I like .NET and WPF and everything, but prices like that make me think it may be time to switch to Java.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                            I spent the majority of the last two years doing Java dev work with NetBeans. It was like a breath of fresh air. It works, it's stable and I was able to produce good product quickly. And it's all free.

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                              well yeah; we're in a recession don't you know. :rolleyes:

                              The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                              Dan Neely wrote:

                              well yeah; we're in a recession don't you know

                              And MS seems to have plotted a course out. For themselves, anyway. :-D (Not to worry. I hear the surplus income is being re-routed to the Windoze Mobile group. They're going to buy an Android phone, reverse engineer it, then release WM7 - Android With Bugs.) ;)

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                                The pro pricing is basically unchanged. Premium pricing is roughly inline with Team System Kitchen Sink edition. The $11k edition has no predecessor. Standard ($350) and Team System One Part Only ($2.5k) editions appear to be KIA.

                                The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                                Ultimate is Team Server + Team Suite ... it costs so much because it comes with the TFS server. Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Team System Team Suite (with MSDN Premium)[^]

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  clearly MS doesn't do random drug screens for employees in its Marketing division.

                                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    $11,294

                                    What are you supposed to do with it? Hang it on a wall, or stand it on a plinth?

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      $11,294

                                      What are you supposed to do with it? Hang it on a wall, or stand it on a plinth?

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      Put it in a bank locker. The Box is made of Gold.

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        Tomz_KV
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                                        I assume the express edition will still be available, which is affordable.

                                        TOMZ_KV

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          Beta 2 of VS2010 and .Net 4.0 are now available to MSDN subsribers (everyone else has to wait until Oct 21 to get it). VS2010 will be "launched" on March 22 of next year. The most astonishing news are the new SKUs: VS2010 Pro $799 VS2010 Pro with MSDN $1179 VS2010 Premium $5469 VS2010 So Expensive That God Can't Afford It - $11,294 - yes, that's FIVE DIGITS in the price (MS's name for it is VS2010 Ultimate)

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          thrakazog
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                                          Now is the time I start looking for the MS launch event for VS2010 so I can score a free copy. I've had good luck so far. I've got a shiny new copy of VS for free with each launch to date. Scored Windows 7 last week the same way. Victory Stewy!

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