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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

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    Thank your lucky stars, c# could just be round the corner... fingers crossed.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
      -----
      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
      -----
      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

      modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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      CPallini
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things

      I know that feeling, is a healthly challenge!

      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me,

      That's good. I had a similar (short) experience in a past company (though I were involved only in the new projects): I was the C# (and C/C++ when needed) guy in a VB.NET based software development team. Best wishes. :)

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
        -----
        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
        -----
        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

        modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job. But now, I have realized that even my employers might read my posts, let me leave a good impression on them. but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity.

        ;P I should run away from Lounge now. Seriously.

        50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
          -----
          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
          -----
          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

          modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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          So, how would you be as a project manager?

          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
            -----
            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

            modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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            One of the first things you do should be to ask your new co-workers to sign up on Code Project and to start actively posting on the Lounge :-D That task should probably have higher priority than the VB to C# move.

            Regards, Nish


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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
              -----
              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
              -----
              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

              modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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              Let's hope your new project manager doesn't push for WPF.

              Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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              • L Lost User

                So, how would you be as a project manager?

                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Oh yeah, can just imagine working for Mr Curmudgeon! It's bad enough working for 25 year old snot noses, never mind working for an old git... :-)

                me, me, me

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                • L Lost User

                  So, how would you be as a project manager?

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                  "Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.

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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    "Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.

                    Spoilsport!

                    Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                      -----
                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                      modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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                      He knows you can just buy a tool to convert them to C#, right ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        "Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                        -----
                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                        dan sh
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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        "Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind.

                        That is the most important thing needed.

                        50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                          modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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                          See, after 24 hours you've got them on the ropes and begging or the sanity of C# [sorry I have to ;P]. Gert them thinking in objects and manageing data, ignore the UI and show the people that matter how good it can be. The other people can go to Walmart...


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                            Let's hope your new project manager doesn't push for WPF.

                            Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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                            FyreWyrm wrote:

                            Let's hope your new project manager does push for WPF.

                            FTFY

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                              He knows you can just buy a tool to convert them to C#, right ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              But what kind of code quality are we talking about (discounting of course that the code is currently in VB, so anything could be an improvement). :)

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job, but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity. Since I'm their first "gen-u-ine" developer (their words, not mine), and since their stuff is in such a state, I have the opportunity to mold their processes into my own image and hopefully improve things. Not only that, but the CIO said that if I wanted to put all new development into C#, then that was up to me, but all projects already underway were to remain in VB.Net until such a time as they needed a major re-write. They're considering hiring a project manager who wants to bring one of the programmers that currently works for her with her, and management is considering it. I hope he/she does C#...

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                                modified on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:04 AM

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                                It sounds like they treat you like a valuable and exotic resource which is good. And +50 man points for finding a bright side in a tough situation.

                                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  "Unqualified" is the first term that comes to mind. :) I don't have the necessary certification(s). I'm also not politically correct enough to be a "manager" of anything in a workplace environment.

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                  -----
                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  Member 1709723
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                                  are you hiring?

                                  Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    But what kind of code quality are we talking about (discounting of course that the code is currently in VB, so anything could be an improvement). :)

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    use tool to convert to c# fix code use tool ot convert to vb.net

                                    Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      He knows you can just buy a tool to convert them to C#, right ?

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      Dunno about the for pay ones; but the only free one I didn't find issues with the output code a few years ago (last time I played with them) was reflector which ate all the comments.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        I know I've seemed someone - ummm - critical of my current job. But now, I have realized that even my employers might read my posts, let me leave a good impression on them. but I know I'm lucky to even have a job, and I've never shirked from a challenge in my life. I actually view my current position as an opportunity.

                                        ;P I should run away from Lounge now. Seriously.

                                        50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!

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                                        Exactly what was going through my mind when I read it as well. :)


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