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  • P Paul Watson

    Jason Gerard wrote: We are to spread the gospel to all that will hear it. And if they do not want to hear it then so be it, right? Good that is great. I just wish it was practised that way more often, then Christianity would have a better name and be more approachable for some (e.g. me.) :) Jason Gerard wrote: In my city, there is a Metro Church, that is, a church for gays and lesbians. I agree again. To me you are either a Christian or not. You cannot be a Christian but say you disagree with what the Bible says on certain matter. To this end I am not a Christian. I think there is a lot of good in what your religion says, but there are bits I dislike and do not agree with. So in no way can I claim I am a Christian (I am not working towards agreeing either so no repenting here.) Sorry Anna (if you are reading) but whether you like it or not you cannot be a Christian and do what you are doing willingly. I support what you are doing, but then you need to realise you cannot say you are a Christian. Why do you even want to be a Christian when it is so opposed to what you are doing? Hell, aren't you very conflicted? Praying one moment and changing the next? You said so yourself: Be yourself. Being a Christian is not being yourself then. Also isn't one of the "rules" of Christianity that God comes first, above everything else? Nothing supersedes him, not even physical/mental reality. And I am also sure Anna does not want to, or should, repent what she is doing.

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    Paul Watson wrote: To this end I am not a Christian. I think there is a lot of good in what your religion says, but there are bits I dislike and do not agree with. So in no way can I claim I am a Christian (I am not working towards agreeing either so no repenting here.) What bits? I know you are curious about Christianity and I've read before that your family has tried to convert you. I would like to know why you chose not to. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."

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      I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone at CP who's been so supportive of me over the last year. I know there were a couple of people who were sceptical about me at the outset (I've even been accused of being that worm B**l S****o a couple of times! :omg: ) but that aside the reaction I've had (both in forum messages and emails) has been heartwarming. :rose: I'm now only two months away from changing role publicly, and to be honest I'm getting very tired of hiding who I am. I feel it's time to let you know me a bit better than you can through just the little bit of me you see in the forums. Before doing so I should say that I'm not completely "out" at work yet (although my immediate colleagues and the company are aware of the situation) so I would ask for discretion. Once the formal announcement is made at work (which I expect to happen sometime in December), I'll close off this account and switch back to my other one (renamed of course!). I'll also update my articles to change the name on them. The whole story of who I am and how I came to be in this position is on my website - www.annasplace.me.uk[^]. If you have a look I hope you find it interesting. I'm glad to call you all my friends. :love: Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
      - Marcia Graesch

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      The best of luck for you. This is a controversial issue , many people don't quite agree with changing sex , but since I have a notion of liberal Christiany and democracy and IMHO if people feel bad about themselfs, I think they SHOULD have the right to do what you will do. This IMHO fair game. If I wanted to change my hair style of my style dressing or whatever I wanted to change , I'ld do it. Now this could be seen by conservative members of any Religion as devil thing to do. I strongly disagree. In that view the only pure human beeing is MAN , because woman was made of Adam's rib according to the Christian Bible. So woman in this regard isn't natural also... I don't agree with the vision of the Black/White dictomy , the GOD right's/wrong that many religions teach ... Religion must evolve , must accomodate new situations like yours. For instance , Catholic Church shoud accept Woman to become priests. It's pretty damn hypocritical that many religious people that I know , and that follow God's commandments , are scum , are far worser than many agnostic people that are much more faithful, loyal, sincere, reliable, genuine, and that are truly carrying GOD main ideas like love and respect for the next, that the religious ones. How many times I assisted on fight for leadership, internnal wars between priests and main catechists ,wars between youth catholic groups ... I gave catechesis during 4 years , on 2 of these years I had a great friend of mine , a science geek , that was worser than myself, always thinking in a different space/time , always on the moon . Now that guy was always critized , others catechists liked to play fun of he, the sames that on the front liked to talk with him ... That was a shock to me , these bastards were worser than my agnostic friends ... my friends when don't like a person, are sincere, these guys were lyers and hypocrites ... Now my friend have a degree on Nutrition ,gives consultations on a Medical Centre , was a active member during the same nº of years on the RED CROSS , many times he didn't slept (days in row) , with the classes and the his unpayed work on the RED CROSS , of course he don't give catechesis anymore, simply because some people don't deserve it. He is much better than the guys that were always making fun of him , and he have a better job to. I liked to see now their faces. As I respect your idea, you should also respect others that don't agree with you. It's a matter of life. Perhaps with the passing of the years, people wouldn't feel so s

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        Jason Henderson wrote: I'm sorry, but I can't respect something that I can't accept. Like someone else's religious beliefs? And there we have it - the real reason for all the World's problems: the refusal of people to respect what they can't necessarily accept. I have one word for you: "intolerance". "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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        I'm proud to be intollerant. That means that I stand up for what I believe. Are you intollerant of my intollerance? You hypocrite!! ;P I accept other religions. I accept other political ideas. I don't accept that a woman can actually be trapped in a man's body. I don't accept that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Can you respect what I believe?

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          Paul Selormey wrote: Oh, please - read your statement again. Please, please, and please a little bit of logic here will help. No, as you're obviously far more enlightened than me, you'll have to explain it. Anyway, you knew what to expect when you saw a post by Anna, why did you even look at it? Why did any of you that have such strong objections, look at it? Paul Selormey wrote: Happy? no - I will prefer to do anything that will rescure him from his current mess, Christianity aside. I doubt Anna needs your type of help and I doubt you could ever put your "faith" "aside"? It's clear to me why you posted your opinion: simply because your interpretation of your religion behooves you to. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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          phykell wrote: Anyway, you knew what to expect when you saw a post by Anna, why did you even look at it? Why did any of you that have such strong objections, look at it? Brother, your are missing the point. I do not know him till today, he might have posted but I have neither seen nor read it. You know what? behind the so called objections is a broken heart. Why didn't I help all these times? is a question I am still asking myself. I have a responsibility towards him, and if called today - how can I stand straight and bold - I have failed. phykell wrote: I doubt Anna needs your type of help and I doubt you could ever put your "faith" "aside"? I might not use the right phrase, but I have nothing but Jesus - so yes I cannot be Him aside. I mean to say, leaving the discussion of Christianity. ...It's clear to me why you posted your opinion: simply because your interpretation of your religion behooves you to. If not Jesus, I may not mind or care about whatever he does with his life. With Jesus, I take up a responsibility. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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            :laugh: Jon Sagara Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak stupid.

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            • C Chris Losinger

              Paul Selormey wrote: You are doing yourself and humanity a great harm if you do not help your brother who is sick realize his situation physician, heal thyself


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              The Physician is Jesus. I am or better still just trying to be a channel He can use. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                Paul, sorry but I cannot see what you mean by 'dishonour'. This isn't about prancing about like a drag queen, just someone who wants to get on with their life. How does that dishonour others ? To that point I would mention that Anna has been asked to go out again with girls from work. Surely they are in the best position to judge that ? Also, what do you mean by a "falseful" smile ? Surely the falseful smile would be pretending to be someone you aren't ? Elaine Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                Trollslayer wrote: sorry but I cannot see what you mean by 'dishonour'. You cannot see it. If he ever sits next to you pretending to be a woman and you care about woman you will appreciate it. Trollslayer wrote: Surely the falseful smile would be pretending to be someone you aren't ? Exactly. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                • J Jason Henderson

                  That's great! Your strong faith should transform your life and how you live.

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                  Jason Henderson wrote: That's great! Your strong faith should transform your life and how you live. It already has. I can't live the lie that was my past life anymore, and my Faith is stronger than ever. What more could I ask for? Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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                    phykell wrote: Anyway, you knew what to expect when you saw a post by Anna, why did you even look at it? Why did any of you that have such strong objections, look at it? Brother, your are missing the point. I do not know him till today, he might have posted but I have neither seen nor read it. You know what? behind the so called objections is a broken heart. Why didn't I help all these times? is a question I am still asking myself. I have a responsibility towards him, and if called today - how can I stand straight and bold - I have failed. phykell wrote: I doubt Anna needs your type of help and I doubt you could ever put your "faith" "aside"? I might not use the right phrase, but I have nothing but Jesus - so yes I cannot be Him aside. I mean to say, leaving the discussion of Christianity. ...It's clear to me why you posted your opinion: simply because your interpretation of your religion behooves you to. If not Jesus, I may not mind or care about whatever he does with his life. With Jesus, I take up a responsibility. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    Paul Selormey wrote: Brother, your are missing the point. I do not know him till today, he might have posted but I have neither seen nor read it. That's fair enough, but now you know, how about excusing yourself and leaving this thread. All your flippant comment has done is hijack the original intent of the thread. Perhaps you should also avoid entering into any more of Anna's threads if you disagree so vehemently. Paul Selormey wrote: You know what? behind the so called objections is a broken heart. Why didn't I help all these times? is a question I am still asking myself. I have a responsibility towards him, and if called today - how can I stand straight and bold - I have failed. Yes, yes, you want to use your religion as an excuse for your behaviour - don't most people though? However, I contest that your first post was *not* an offer of help, it was rather, your attempt at condemnation, nothing more. Paul Selormey wrote: With Jesus, I take up a responsibility. To ensure everybody else is fully aware of your opinon and viewpoint regardless of the outcome.? "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      I'm sorry, but I can't respect something that I can't accept.

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                      Jason Henderson wrote: I'm sorry, but I can't respect something that I can't accept. Well, I can. I may not agree with you and (for example) but that doesn't mean I don't respect you or your choices in life. We're all God's children after all. :) Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                      - Marcia Graesch

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                      • J Jason Gerard

                        Paul Watson wrote: To this end I am not a Christian. I think there is a lot of good in what your religion says, but there are bits I dislike and do not agree with. So in no way can I claim I am a Christian (I am not working towards agreeing either so no repenting here.) What bits? I know you are curious about Christianity and I've read before that your family has tried to convert you. I would like to know why you chose not to. Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."

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                        Jason Gerard wrote: What bits? I know you are curious about Christianity Well first off I am curious about a lot of things, including other religions. Christianity holds no more curiosity to me than say Islam. The only diference would be that I come into contact with Christianity more than other religions (living in a westernised world and all.) There are a lot of "bits" in Christianity I disagree with. Many of them I am sure are misconceptions brought on by Bible bashing Christians with good but misled hearts. Just as I am sure I have many misconceptions about Islam brought on by fanatics and misguided souls. But take homosexuality for instance. I do not think it is wrong. Simple as that really, but for you it is simply unnaceptable, simple as that for you. Sex before marriage, nothing wrong with that IMO. I practice it and am in no way trying to stop nor do I feel repentant about it. The list goes on. Yes obviously if you can strike a telling blow of logical rationality against anything on my "list" then I will accept and change my view. But if it is a case of "The Bible says it is wrong" and not much else then sorry, not changing. If God came down from the heavens and told me homosexuality was wrong but did not say why, then I would still not change (I would be shit scared but I would not change.) If he told me why and I agreed with his logic then yes I would change. As for my family, only my sister is a Christian and she never ever tried to force it down my throat, to which I salute her. She does good things, lives a good life and is faithful. To me that is the best way to spread the message, by example. One last thing: I will happily "take" things out of the Bible and live my life according to what I have chosen. I will also take things out of the Kohran (sp!) and whatever other book of wisdom comes my way (The Bible to me is a book of wisdom.) But none of that makes me a Christian or a Muslim or Bhuddist or anything. It makes me who I am and I am fine with that, and if no god accepts me for that, then I say the gods are at fault not me.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town,

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                        • J Jason Henderson

                          I'm proud to be intollerant. That means that I stand up for what I believe. Are you intollerant of my intollerance? You hypocrite!! ;P I accept other religions. I accept other political ideas. I don't accept that a woman can actually be trapped in a man's body. I don't accept that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Can you respect what I believe?

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                          Jason Henderson wrote: I'm proud to be intollerant. That means that I stand up for what I believe. Your first sentence leaves me speechless. Jason Henderson wrote: I accept other religions. I accept other political ideas. I don't accept that a woman can actually be trapped in a man's body. I don't accept that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Can you respect what I believe? Of course I can respect what you believe. I will show that respect by not replying to the statement you made above (the one that left me speechless!). Nevertheless, like another poster here, you are happy to tell us what your opinions are but you will not share any evidence to back up your opinions. Do you really expect me to take you seriously unless you do? The fact is, that personally, I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. As I said elsewhere, Anna must be pretty sure of what she's going to do because it surely isn't the sort of thing you would do on a whim. Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                          • T Tomasz Sowinski

                            Good luck :) I wonder if you'll ever miss your previous sexual configuration. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                            *** Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere. ***

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                            Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Good luck Thank you. :) Tomasz Sowinski wrote: I wonder if you'll ever miss your previous sexual configuration. I somehow doubt it! There's nothing about the male role I've ever found I enjoy - the whole experience has been one long act I'm afraid. What's most important to me is that I can be honest with those around me - part of which being that I'm known as myself rather than somebody else's idea of who I should be. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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                              Jason Gerard wrote: What bits? I know you are curious about Christianity Well first off I am curious about a lot of things, including other religions. Christianity holds no more curiosity to me than say Islam. The only diference would be that I come into contact with Christianity more than other religions (living in a westernised world and all.) There are a lot of "bits" in Christianity I disagree with. Many of them I am sure are misconceptions brought on by Bible bashing Christians with good but misled hearts. Just as I am sure I have many misconceptions about Islam brought on by fanatics and misguided souls. But take homosexuality for instance. I do not think it is wrong. Simple as that really, but for you it is simply unnaceptable, simple as that for you. Sex before marriage, nothing wrong with that IMO. I practice it and am in no way trying to stop nor do I feel repentant about it. The list goes on. Yes obviously if you can strike a telling blow of logical rationality against anything on my "list" then I will accept and change my view. But if it is a case of "The Bible says it is wrong" and not much else then sorry, not changing. If God came down from the heavens and told me homosexuality was wrong but did not say why, then I would still not change (I would be shit scared but I would not change.) If he told me why and I agreed with his logic then yes I would change. As for my family, only my sister is a Christian and she never ever tried to force it down my throat, to which I salute her. She does good things, lives a good life and is faithful. To me that is the best way to spread the message, by example. One last thing: I will happily "take" things out of the Bible and live my life according to what I have chosen. I will also take things out of the Kohran (sp!) and whatever other book of wisdom comes my way (The Bible to me is a book of wisdom.) But none of that makes me a Christian or a Muslim or Bhuddist or anything. It makes me who I am and I am fine with that, and if no god accepts me for that, then I say the gods are at fault not me.

                              Paul Watson
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                              Paul Watson wrote: If God came down from the heavens and told me homosexuality was wrong but did not say why, then I would still not change (I would be sh*t scared but I would not change.) If he told me why and I agreed with his logic then yes I would change. Suprisingly, I don't find that hard to believe. Such was the case when Jesus walked on the earth and performed miracles. However, in your view, you have to agree with it to make it right or wrong. That is moral relativism. What if my logic said that it was ok to rape, or murder, or have sex with a 5 year old child? Would that make it ok? As a philosopher once said, "Without God, everything is permissible." Paul Watson wrote: and if no god accepts me for that, then I say the gods are at fault not me. If your boss tell you to have X module finished by Friday and you don't do it and get fired, is that his fault, or yours? You have to believe in an objective truth if you are to have any morals at all. What one person thinks is right, another thinks is wrong. With this system, everything is permissible. It's ok for you to steal my car, it's ok for me to kill your mother. If you believe killing is wrong, but do not believe in God, then why is killing wrong? Jason Gerard "This almost never matters, except quite often."

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                                The best of luck for you. This is a controversial issue , many people don't quite agree with changing sex , but since I have a notion of liberal Christiany and democracy and IMHO if people feel bad about themselfs, I think they SHOULD have the right to do what you will do. This IMHO fair game. If I wanted to change my hair style of my style dressing or whatever I wanted to change , I'ld do it. Now this could be seen by conservative members of any Religion as devil thing to do. I strongly disagree. In that view the only pure human beeing is MAN , because woman was made of Adam's rib according to the Christian Bible. So woman in this regard isn't natural also... I don't agree with the vision of the Black/White dictomy , the GOD right's/wrong that many religions teach ... Religion must evolve , must accomodate new situations like yours. For instance , Catholic Church shoud accept Woman to become priests. It's pretty damn hypocritical that many religious people that I know , and that follow God's commandments , are scum , are far worser than many agnostic people that are much more faithful, loyal, sincere, reliable, genuine, and that are truly carrying GOD main ideas like love and respect for the next, that the religious ones. How many times I assisted on fight for leadership, internnal wars between priests and main catechists ,wars between youth catholic groups ... I gave catechesis during 4 years , on 2 of these years I had a great friend of mine , a science geek , that was worser than myself, always thinking in a different space/time , always on the moon . Now that guy was always critized , others catechists liked to play fun of he, the sames that on the front liked to talk with him ... That was a shock to me , these bastards were worser than my agnostic friends ... my friends when don't like a person, are sincere, these guys were lyers and hypocrites ... Now my friend have a degree on Nutrition ,gives consultations on a Medical Centre , was a active member during the same nº of years on the RED CROSS , many times he didn't slept (days in row) , with the classes and the his unpayed work on the RED CROSS , of course he don't give catechesis anymore, simply because some people don't deserve it. He is much better than the guys that were always making fun of him , and he have a better job to. I liked to see now their faces. As I respect your idea, you should also respect others that don't agree with you. It's a matter of life. Perhaps with the passing of the years, people wouldn't feel so s

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                                Thank you Joao. Although there are some people who can't understand people like me (which I understand - it is hard for some), I do my best to respect all people for who they are - regardless of their faith or views., and to help anyone in need if I can. :) I'm happy to say that things do seem to be much better than they used to be - I know lots of people in the same position and we do seem to be more accepted. I even know a TS lady who's a Church Elder! :cool: Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
                                - Marcia Graesch

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                                  Jason Henderson wrote: I'm proud to be intollerant. That means that I stand up for what I believe. Your first sentence leaves me speechless. Jason Henderson wrote: I accept other religions. I accept other political ideas. I don't accept that a woman can actually be trapped in a man's body. I don't accept that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Can you respect what I believe? Of course I can respect what you believe. I will show that respect by not replying to the statement you made above (the one that left me speechless!). Nevertheless, like another poster here, you are happy to tell us what your opinions are but you will not share any evidence to back up your opinions. Do you really expect me to take you seriously unless you do? The fact is, that personally, I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. As I said elsewhere, Anna must be pretty sure of what she's going to do because it surely isn't the sort of thing you would do on a whim. Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                                  phykell wrote: Of course I can respect what you believe. I will show that respect by not replying to the statement you made above (the one that left me speechless!). Hmm, looks like you replied to it. phykell wrote: Nevertheless, like another poster here, you are happy to tell us what your opinions are but you will not share any evidence to back up your opinions. Why do I need evidence to back an opinion or belief? Its what I believe is right, period. phykell wrote: I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. I practice what I preach but you're showing me no respect whatsoever. phykell wrote: Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? What Anna is doing is not a part of the social norm. That in itself does not make what he is doing wrong. However, from a biological standpoint, what he is doing is unnatural, and from a religious (christian) standpoint, what he may do with other men is deemed sexual immorality. Frankly, I could care less if he wants to dress like a girl and act like one too. But I really don't think this forum is the proper venue for his coming out party.

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                                    phykell wrote: Of course I can respect what you believe. I will show that respect by not replying to the statement you made above (the one that left me speechless!). Hmm, looks like you replied to it. phykell wrote: Nevertheless, like another poster here, you are happy to tell us what your opinions are but you will not share any evidence to back up your opinions. Why do I need evidence to back an opinion or belief? Its what I believe is right, period. phykell wrote: I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. I practice what I preach but you're showing me no respect whatsoever. phykell wrote: Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? What Anna is doing is not a part of the social norm. That in itself does not make what he is doing wrong. However, from a biological standpoint, what he is doing is unnatural, and from a religious (christian) standpoint, what he may do with other men is deemed sexual immorality. Frankly, I could care less if he wants to dress like a girl and act like one too. But I really don't think this forum is the proper venue for his coming out party.

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                                    Jason Henderson wrote: Hmm, looks like you replied to it. Oh no I didn't, because if I'd have replied to it I would have told you what an incredibly ignorant and unenlightened attitude you would be demonstrating. As it is, I didn't reply. Jason Henderson wrote: Why do I need evidence to back an opinion or belief? Its what I believe is right, period. You don't have to back it up at all, but if you expect any credibility at all, I recommend you at least try, otherwise, anyone might think you were just arguing for the sake of it. phykell wrote: I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. Jason Henderson wrote: I practice what I preach but you're showing me no respect whatsoever. Because? And anyway, this isn't between you and I, this is about you posting your unwanted, unwarranted and unsubstantiated opinions on someone's lifestyle choices and even if it isn't, that was a great example of alliteration :) Jason Henderson wrote: phykell wrote: Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? What Anna is doing is not a part of the social norm. That in itself does not make what he is doing wrong. However, from a biological standpoint, what he is doing is unnatural, and from a religious (christian) standpoint, what he may do with other men is deemed sexual immorality. Frankly, I could care less if he wants to dress like a girl and act like one too. But I really don't think this forum is the proper venue for his coming out party. You didn't answer my quesiton but personally I'm interested in what Anna's got to say. However, I fully accept that you don't want to read about it, but then again, I didn't know anyone was forcing you to! How about you just stop reading the thread! "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                                      Jason Henderson wrote: Hmm, looks like you replied to it. Oh no I didn't, because if I'd have replied to it I would have told you what an incredibly ignorant and unenlightened attitude you would be demonstrating. As it is, I didn't reply. Jason Henderson wrote: Why do I need evidence to back an opinion or belief? Its what I believe is right, period. You don't have to back it up at all, but if you expect any credibility at all, I recommend you at least try, otherwise, anyone might think you were just arguing for the sake of it. phykell wrote: I respect peoples' opinions if they do back them up with, for example, evidence, or by practising what they preach. Jason Henderson wrote: I practice what I preach but you're showing me no respect whatsoever. Because? And anyway, this isn't between you and I, this is about you posting your unwanted, unwarranted and unsubstantiated opinions on someone's lifestyle choices and even if it isn't, that was a great example of alliteration :) Jason Henderson wrote: phykell wrote: Why exactly should anyone value your opinion as even comparable to Anna's? What Anna is doing is not a part of the social norm. That in itself does not make what he is doing wrong. However, from a biological standpoint, what he is doing is unnatural, and from a religious (christian) standpoint, what he may do with other men is deemed sexual immorality. Frankly, I could care less if he wants to dress like a girl and act like one too. But I really don't think this forum is the proper venue for his coming out party. You didn't answer my quesiton but personally I'm interested in what Anna's got to say. However, I fully accept that you don't want to read about it, but then again, I didn't know anyone was forcing you to! How about you just stop reading the thread! "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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                                      phykell wrote: And anyway, this isn't between you and I, this is about you posting your unwanted, unwarranted and unsubstantiated opinions on someone's lifestyle choices and even if it isn't, that was a great example of alliteration Anna's lifestyle thread is unwanted and unwarranted on CP. That's what my first post in this thread stated and I stand by that. As for other posts in this thread, I was only responding to the posts of others. If you don't like it, maybe you should stop reading this thread!

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                                        Anna :) wrote: I'm glad to call you all my friends. Just exclude me, please. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                        Paul Selormey wrote: Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody. While I may whole-heartedly agree with you signature, I think you're being rather harsh. If Anna wants to do what's she's doing then let her.


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                                          Daniel Turini wrote: Oh, I interviewed hundreds of programmers. Most of them say they know all of this things. Not 10% of them know... Oddly enough, so have I - so I do know what you mean. My dev history is on the profile of my other account - go and take a look if you're not convinced. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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                                          what is your other profile? Just interested :)


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