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Moving from 1.1 to 2.0

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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    You don't need Visual Studio to write for any version of .net.

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    Luc Pattyn
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    you could even do it without Notepad. :laugh: :)

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    • T Tom Deketelaere

      3.5 won't install on windows server 2000. That might be a reason. A few of our clients still use server with 2000 on it so occasionally we have the same request.

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      Media2r
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      Server 2000 will be out of extendid support in four months, so I would imagine that would speed up migration projects quite a bit. //L

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        Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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        Jorgen Andersson
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        VS2003 creates Web Applications, while VS2005 creates websites. VS2008 can do both[^]. Guess what my recommendation is...

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          You don't need Visual Studio to write for any version of .net.

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          Kevin McFarlane
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          Yes, but there can't be many who do, say, ASP.NET without using VS.

          Kevin

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          • J Jorgen Andersson

            VS2003 creates Web Applications, while VS2005 creates websites. VS2008 can do both[^]. Guess what my recommendation is...

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            while VS2005 creates websites

            VS 2005 can create both too. Web Apps. were added in SP1.

            Kevin

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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

              while VS2005 creates websites

              VS 2005 can create both too. Web Apps. were added in SP1.

              Kevin

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              Oops. I guess I have to RTFM for the servicepacks too. Could have saved me som work some years ago.

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                Oops. I guess I have to RTFM for the servicepacks too. Could have saved me som work some years ago.

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                Kevin McFarlane
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                IIRC it was originally a standalone add-in for VS 2005 RTM. Then they bundled it into SP1.

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                  Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                  How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?

                  I stopped at 1.1 and went back to 98 some 5 years ago. Now I am introducing the cool new 0x features to the team (of course, only the subset provided by VS 2010). Hopefully we'll make the switch some time this year :)

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                  • L Luc Pattyn

                    you could even do it without Notepad. :laugh: :)

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Me, for instance.

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                      Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      In my opinion a successful migration is one that builds while only adding required functionality for the build to work. Thus a 2.0 migration is also a 3.5 migration. After successful you then add new features of the new build but do not change the old ones until they are broke.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                        Yes, but there can't be many who do, say, ASP.NET without using VS.

                        Kevin

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        More reason not to do ASP.net. :-D

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                          Server 2000 will be out of extendid support in four months, so I would imagine that would speed up migration projects quite a bit. //L

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                          Tom Deketelaere
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                          Doubtful. We still have clients working on programs in access 2.0. As long as everything works the client isn't going to upgrade.

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                          • M Mario Luis

                            Exactly. At the moment all frameworks post 2 are more extensions and enhancements, not base changes. Not sure about 4 though. Breakdown -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework[^]

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                            Dan Neely
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                            4 is new. Making the use old frameworks work in VS2k10 required a new round of being clever for the visual studio team.

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              You don't need Visual Studio to write for any version of .net.

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                              Dan Neely
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                              True, but it's much easier with the IDE.

                              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                                Member 96
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                                It should be entirely painless and almost instantaneous to move from 1.1 to 2 or 3.5. Since 3.5 is really 2.0 with extra bits there's no reason not to go straight to 3.5. Anyone who panics about that really doesn't understand what they should about .net 3.5. I did this a long time ago with a huge app with both asp.net and winform interfaces and others and there were really no issues at all, it's a no brainer.


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                                • L Luc Pattyn

                                  Hi Mark, 1.1 is ancient history for me. I build for 2.0 on a daily base, I only go for 3.5 if the app warrants that, i.e. when new features are sufficiently relevant. and IMO LINQ is not. 3.0 is irrelevant, it is either 2.0 or 3.5 BigInteger will be sufficient to move a few apps to 4.0 in the near future. :)

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                  3.0 is irrelevant

                                  Unless we are talking C# vs. CLR. C# 3 is, like, way cool.

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                                    Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                    3.0 is irrelevant

                                    Unless we are talking C# vs. CLR. C# 3 is, like, way cool.

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                                    I was talking about CLR versions, but you're right, C# has its own version numbers. I'm not fond (yet) about the new goodies in C# 3.0, I'm actually quite satisfied with C# 2.0 and I definitely don't need the next PL/I language[^] :)

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                                      I was talking about CLR versions, but you're right, C# has its own version numbers. I'm not fond (yet) about the new goodies in C# 3.0, I'm actually quite satisfied with C# 2.0 and I definitely don't need the next PL/I language[^] :)

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                                      I <3 lambdas. No great shakes, but just plain cool.

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                                        Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


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                                        Rocky Moore
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                                        Have them shoot for 4.0 and be done with it :)

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                                          Had a request from a potential client were they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0. I suggested they move to .net 3.5 while they are doing it but they flat out refused it, no reason given. I believe their staff is so far behind the curve they are just now learning 2.0. How many people are still working with 1.1? Would you skip 2.0 and go to 3.5?


                                          I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                                          Gandalf_TheWhite
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                                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                          they wanted to upgrade their current asp.net application from .net 1.1 to .net 2.0

                                          Without any reason :confused: I was working on 1.1 just 7-8 months ago and yeah have skipped 2.0. And now working on 3.5. One question : are you going to charge your client for this upgrade? As we might have same situation in very near time.

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