Evilcry1, and proprietary software
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Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it :) I'll republish the article and successive (yeah I planned to write a set of articles) on my blog. About the question I think, that to show how works a certain software, commercial or not is not a crime or spam, I casually discovered the software in question and I've founded it a Valid (in 10 years I've seen various bad Filtering Systems) and Flexible solution. The intent was easly to say "hey people here a good library..and here what you can do and how works" and hopefully this will help some coder. Nothing more, also because I'm not the author of the sw in question :) after this bad experience my first and last article here. Just wanted to renovate my appreciation for your words. Have a nice Day, Giuseppe
Please repost the article. I'll put in my 2 cents to see it gets published.
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For those that want to see the blog he was referring to. Fixed link[^] Tearing apart malicious code to figure out how it ticks and to defeat it is way above me. I would have loved to have seen some of his articles on CP.
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Well, it appears his entire account has been deleted. Interesting. Marc
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Well, it appears his entire account has been deleted. Interesting. Marc
He requested it as was mentioned here. CM obliged. I got to the site from his profile before the deletion and thought others might want to as well.
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True, I must admit that his article didn't really strike a chord here, because it referred to some software that I didn't have. Not really interested in filtering packets either :-). But the same thing applies to Delphi programming: I don't look at any Delphi Programming, I wish the world would get rid of the bloody thing, and that the inventor of Delphi would rot in hell, together with the idiot who thought up JavaScript. Now if someone wants to post an article on Delphi, I'll quietly ignore him, check my pacemaker, and take my prescription pills. I Won't flame him.
Michel Godfroid wrote:
the inventor of Delphi would rot in hell
You mean the same guy who came up with C#/.Net? :)
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He requested it as was mentioned here. CM obliged. I got to the site from his profile before the deletion and thought others might want to as well.
Check your link to his site, it's busted at the moment.
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Today, a new contributor http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=7098780#About[^] was forced into removing his article http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3443860/How-I-Can-Delete-my-Article-and-Account.aspx[^]from the code project because it referred to proprietary (paying) software. If the self appointed zealots keep this up, I vote that we remove any article that: - Refers to any version of Windows; Windows is a proprietary, paying operating system. - Refers to any version of visual studio professional; Visual studio is a paying IDE. - Refers to any version of Sourcesafe or TFS: paying products. - Refers to any version of Oracle: Paying products - Refers to any version IIS: Not free. Instead we will occupy ourselves with GNU compiler, the Mono project, and Linux. Get a life, mates, most of us are professional programmers here, and we intend to at least buy a sandwich from what we do. Oh, and don't hesitate to support Evilcry1.
you are right, there wasn't anything wrong with the subject. I didn't read the whole article, however I did see five unjustified "my vote of 1" messages. This is yet another argument for limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses, especially since the article had appeared, hence had passed the approval process. It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member. :)
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Michel Godfroid wrote:
the inventor of Delphi would rot in hell
You mean the same guy who came up with C#/.Net? :)
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Well, Delphi's not that bad. It has the aura of age, which makes it respectable; Javascript though...
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Michel Godfroid wrote:
Evilcry1 was NOT advertising his own software.
I'm glad we agree on that, but.. I still don't get what that part of your post that I quoted is supposed to mean As to the rest of your post.. ok? (you are aware that I'm not exactly new to CP either, right? :) )
I think there was a certain amount of irony there that might have gotten missed. I know I did the first time I glanced at his post.
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That's a fine and understandable position for you to take. But it shouldn't preclude someone else from posting an article that uses 3rd party commercial software. Especially if they have no connection to the third-party-software in question. A lot of the examples and posted here use .NET and Visual Studio, SQL Server, C#, etc. All commercial software, and none of which you can get for free. The idea here is to help one another and share: which was evilcry's only intention. I didn't see the article, but perhaps a disclaimer at the beginning (if it wasn't present) would have been helpful.
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That's a fine and understandable position for you to take. But it shouldn't preclude someone else from posting an article that uses 3rd party commercial software. Especially if they have no connection to the third-party-software in question
I agree. Sometimes 3rd party commercial software will have a trial or watered down version that can be actually purchased if it looks like something you can use. Though I didn't see his article, perhaps he just wanted to show what one could do with the software, just to share info, not to make a profit.
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Well, Delphi's not that bad. It has the aura of age, which makes it respectable; Javascript though...
Michel Godfroid wrote:
Javascript though...
Yeah, I'd agree, JS is definitely the work of the Devil! Although it's still not as bad as perl...
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Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it :) I'll republish the article and successive (yeah I planned to write a set of articles) on my blog. About the question I think, that to show how works a certain software, commercial or not is not a crime or spam, I casually discovered the software in question and I've founded it a Valid (in 10 years I've seen various bad Filtering Systems) and Flexible solution. The intent was easly to say "hey people here a good library..and here what you can do and how works" and hopefully this will help some coder. Nothing more, also because I'm not the author of the sw in question :) after this bad experience my first and last article here. Just wanted to renovate my appreciation for your words. Have a nice Day, Giuseppe
In the future if you repost it, wait a week or so. If you're getting a rash of idiot 1 voters, usually these will get balanced out by some 5's, though that may take a week or two to occur.
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Check your link to his site, it's busted at the moment.
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fixt, thanks. Apparently cut and paste is above me too...
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True, I must admit that his article didn't really strike a chord here, because it referred to some software that I didn't have. Not really interested in filtering packets either :-). But the same thing applies to Delphi programming: I don't look at any Delphi Programming, I wish the world would get rid of the bloody thing, and that the inventor of Delphi would rot in hell, together with the idiot who thought up JavaScript. Now if someone wants to post an article on Delphi, I'll quietly ignore him, check my pacemaker, and take my prescription pills. I Won't flame him.
Michel Godfroid wrote:
if someone wants to post an article on Delphi, I'll quietly ignore him
I'm not sure if I would ignore the person. It would depend on the article content, and if it were something useful for me, I'd take a look at the code and try to write something similar to it in C#.
Michel Godfroid wrote:
Not really interested in filtering packets either
Same here, unless I'm given a project that may require it from a company security standpoint.
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Michel Godfroid wrote:
Javascript though...
Yeah, I'd agree, JS is definitely the work of the Devil! Although it's still not as bad as perl...
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Javascript
what's wrong with javascript? I like it... yes i know it's untyped, etc, but so what?
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you are right, there wasn't anything wrong with the subject. I didn't read the whole article, however I did see five unjustified "my vote of 1" messages. This is yet another argument for limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses, especially since the article had appeared, hence had passed the approval process. It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member.
Yes, it is a shame. I tend to just ignore the 1-voters. I've seen a few decent articles, in my opinion, and just ignore the 1-votes that have little or no constructive criticism of the article. I only look at 1-vote comments if they are a valid constructive criticism of the article. Not little meaningless one or two word b.s. messages.
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you are right, there wasn't anything wrong with the subject. I didn't read the whole article, however I did see five unjustified "my vote of 1" messages. This is yet another argument for limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses, especially since the article had appeared, hence had passed the approval process. It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member. :)
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Thanks, Luc, as a RMOTCP ( Respected member of the Code Project), (and fellow Belgian :laugh: ), I think your argument will carry a lot more weight than mine...
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you are right, there wasn't anything wrong with the subject. I didn't read the whole article, however I did see five unjustified "my vote of 1" messages. This is yet another argument for limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses, especially since the article had appeared, hence had passed the approval process. It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses
At least for articles. Or you could require a 50 word explanation. With some heuristics to prevent garbage posts. Perhaps someone with a good reputation could approve the down-vote.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Javascript
what's wrong with javascript? I like it... yes i know it's untyped, etc, but so what?
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you are right, there wasn't anything wrong with the subject. I didn't read the whole article, however I did see five unjustified "my vote of 1" messages. This is yet another argument for limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses, especially since the article had appeared, hence had passed the approval process. It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
It is disappointing to see how a few can drive away a well-intended CP member.
Well in all fairness, if he had just waited a week or two, I'm sure things would have been balanced out. If he had left the article up, after the OP's post here, I'm sure there would have been a number of 5 votes made, given the apparent quality of the article, and that would have sorted the whole thing out.
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
limiting the (down)voting rights of the masses
At least for articles. Or you could require a 50 word explanation. With some heuristics to prevent garbage posts. Perhaps someone with a good reputation could approve the down-vote.
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http://obamacaretruth.org/ahmed zahmed wrote:
At least for articles
That is what I meant. Message votes are of lesser importance, as messages typically aren't the result of a big investment of time and effort, articles are.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Perhaps someone with a good reputation could approve the down-vote
Yeah, an indirect scheme has been proposed only recently (by martin_hughes IIRC); people would be able to comment, and the comments (not the article itself) would be voted upon, resulting in a score for the article itself. IMO there is a lot of merit in such scheme, the major disadvantage would be a bit of delay to get a score. :)
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