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If it wasn't for King Alfred, the world would be shit

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  • D Dalek Dave

    Alfred gave hearing to his people. He created the Democracy in Europe. He formulated the Royal Navy. He beat Guthram at Headingly. He created local courts that heard in his name. He defeated Vikings. He showed how useless Agas were.

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    Ah, but do you know what name Guthrum adopted after being defeated and baptised?

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      Ah, but do you know what name Guthrum adopted after being defeated and baptised?

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      Dalek Dave
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      Ethelred? Or Ethelmere or Ethelstan or something like that? I know he stayed and ruled the Danelaw. (Which, incidentally ended (as in border not time) about 1 mile from my house).

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        Ah, but do you know what name Guthrum adopted after being defeated and baptised?

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        Rhys Gravell
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        Æthelstan

        Rhys "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." Terry Pratchett

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          Ethelred? Or Ethelmere or Ethelstan or something like that? I know he stayed and ruled the Danelaw. (Which, incidentally ended (as in border not time) about 1 mile from my house).

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          So there was a time when Luton was more than just an airport?

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Thanks.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Rhys Gravell
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            There's quite a good program on the Normans showing (on BBC2 I think) at the moment called, oddly enough, The Normans[^], if you're also interested in that kind of thing.

            Rhys "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." Terry Pratchett

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              There's quite a good program on the Normans showing (on BBC2 I think) at the moment called, oddly enough, The Normans[^], if you're also interested in that kind of thing.

              Rhys "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." Terry Pratchett

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              Thanks: have that recording on Sky Plus to watch at my leisure.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                So there was a time when Luton was more than just an airport?

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                Dalek Dave
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                Oh yes, it was the center of the Hat Industry (Why the local team is called The Hatters). It was also a major market town and one of the first to get a train station from London. Home to Vauxhall Motors for 100 years, although they have gone now. And Home to Whitbread Brewery too.

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                  Oh yes, it was the center of the Hat Industry (Why the local team is called The Hatters). It was also a major market town and one of the first to get a train station from London. Home to Vauxhall Motors for 100 years, although they have gone now. And Home to Whitbread Brewery too.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  Yawn. I was being funny. You know, humor. Anyway, you forgot Lorraine Chase[^]. Dunstable is nicer.

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                    Yawn. I was being funny. You know, humor. Anyway, you forgot Lorraine Chase[^]. Dunstable is nicer.

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                    digital man wrote:

                    Dunstable is nicer.

                    Have you even been to Dunstable? It is a Ghost Town. What shops that are open are of the Poundland/Charity variety. It doesn't have a cinema and the nightclubs are in an old shopping precint. It really is the Land of the Living Dead. They have a nice shiney ASDA, but let's face it, ASDA is a bit downmarket, (I prefer Sainsburys myself, and that's only because Luton doesn't have a Waitrose).

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                      digital man wrote:

                      Dunstable is nicer.

                      Have you even been to Dunstable? It is a Ghost Town. What shops that are open are of the Poundland/Charity variety. It doesn't have a cinema and the nightclubs are in an old shopping precint. It really is the Land of the Living Dead. They have a nice shiney ASDA, but let's face it, ASDA is a bit downmarket, (I prefer Sainsburys myself, and that's only because Luton doesn't have a Waitrose).

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                      To be honest I rarely venture outside the M25 unless it's to get to an airport to leave this miserable little country for as long as I can get away with. :-)

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                        To be honest I rarely venture outside the M25 unless it's to get to an airport to leave this miserable little country for as long as I can get away with. :-)

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                        digital man wrote:

                        I rarely venture outside the M25

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                        this miserable little country

                        Gee, I wonder why you think that? :) Hey, come to Devon some time and do some sailing. Oh, sorry, forgot, you only like 1950s US culture!

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                          digital man wrote:

                          I rarely venture outside the M25

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                          this miserable little country

                          Gee, I wonder why you think that? :) Hey, come to Devon some time and do some sailing. Oh, sorry, forgot, you only like 1950s US culture!

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          Hey, come to Devon some time and do some sailing. Oh, sorry, forgot, you only like 1950s US culture!

                          Yes and no. I would come to Devon to sail but I'd be puking: I get seasick just looking at running water. :~

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                            fat_boy wrote:

                            Hey, come to Devon some time and do some sailing. Oh, sorry, forgot, you only like 1950s US culture!

                            Yes and no. I would come to Devon to sail but I'd be puking: I get seasick just looking at running water. :~

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                            Well how about 4000 year old villages, got one of those on Dartmoor. Mind you, its a bit pre 1950s for you I suppose. ;)

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                              Well how about 4000 year old villages, got one of those on Dartmoor. Mind you, its a bit pre 1950s for you I suppose. ;)

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              Where did you get that I'm obsessed with 50s America? (I'm not, btw).

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                                Where did you get that I'm obsessed with 50s America? (I'm not, btw).

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                                Its you rlove of tacky 1950s american diners that gave me the impression. :)

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                                  Its you rlove of tacky 1950s american diners that gave me the impression. :)

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                                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                                  Yes, those I love but I only know of 50s US through book, film and parents (who lived there). I prefer modern day US, mostly.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Oh yes, it was the center of the Hat Industry (Why the local team is called The Hatters). It was also a major market town and one of the first to get a train station from London. Home to Vauxhall Motors for 100 years, although they have gone now. And Home to Whitbread Brewery too.

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    And Home to Whitbread Brewery too.

                                    Well, I guess some town has to be responsible for Whitbread (at one time they were the evil empire of the UK brewing industry!).

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      He was famous for Burning the Cakes, but the only reason I mentioned it at all was I was watching a programme about him, very interesting it was too.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      He was famous for Burning the Cakes

                                      And that was a complete myth.

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        He was famous for Burning the Cakes

                                        And that was a complete myth.

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Well of course it was, but it makes for a good tale.

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                                          Well of course it was, but it makes for a good tale.

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          Except for all the idiots with no idea of history who treat things like this and Robin Hood as fact.

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