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[Rama Krishna Vavilala]

4. Even though I try to correct other people when I get a chance. Especially, people who appreciate trivia.

[AspDotNetDev]

I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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[AspDotNetDev]

Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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[Daniel Grunwald]

PNG is pronouned ping, according to the libpng site on png's history[^]. In fact, they even include "unambiguous pronunciation" in the PNG feature list :laugh:

[AspDotNetDev]

Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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[Daniel Grunwald]

I looked around some more, and found that the authors of PNG were very specific:

No detail was too small for consideration in the authors' quest for a near-perfect image format; yea, verily, even the acronym and pronunciation were major topics of discussion. The reason, of course, is the GIF format; some pronounce it with a soft G like giraffe, some with a hard G like gift, and no one really knows what they're talking about. (For the record, the soft G is correct; it is how the author of the format pronounces it.) "PNG" is always spelled* "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping" in English, not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster. (For non-English speakers, the three-letter pronunciation is fine, however.) See the introduction to the PNG specification[^] (or the Scope section of the newer ISO/IEC/W3C version[^]) for the definitive statement on the matter. * Greg follows American English rules, but read spelt here if you "favour" the British "flavour." ;-)

[Nish Nishant]

aspdotnetdev wrote:

I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)

Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.

Regards, Nish

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[Nish Nishant]

Indivara wrote:

Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

Regards, Nish

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[Fernando A Gomez F]

I always pronounce it as "hif"...

[Maximilien]

pee-an-gee.

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[LloydA111]

I always say it as G (gap) I (gap) F.

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[AspDotNetDev]

Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff".

Wow, even the creator of the format pronounces it incorrectly. :doh:

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[Indivara]

Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

[Nish Nishant]

Indivara wrote:

Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

Regards, Nish

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[Indivara]

I never knew that it could be read as ping, I say P - N - G. Same with SQL - learned from books, and so did everyone else around me. GIF was jiff (imitating others)

[Indivara]

Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

[Indivara]

That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

[Fernando A Gomez F]

No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

[Indivara]

That's a good idea, avoid the article and let the reader deal with it :-D

[Rick York]

I say either SQL or squeal.