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    Indivara
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    GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

    1. giff
    2. jiff
    3. never thought of it
    4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
    5. who gives a spit

    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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      GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

      1. giff
      2. jiff
      3. never thought of it
      4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
      5. who gives a spit

      Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

      (* stack overflow)

      modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      4. Even though I try to correct other people when I get a chance. Especially, people who appreciate trivia.

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        GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

        1. giff
        2. jiff
        3. never thought of it
        4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
        5. who gives a spit

        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

        (* stack overflow)

        modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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        AspDotNetDev
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        I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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          GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

          1. giff
          2. jiff
          3. never thought of it
          4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
          5. who gives a spit

          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

          (* stack overflow)

          modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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            Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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            Daniel Grunwald
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            PNG is pronouned ping, according to the libpng site on png's history[^]. In fact, they even include "unambiguous pronunciation" in the PNG feature list :laugh:

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              PNG is pronouned ping, according to the libpng site on png's history[^]. In fact, they even include "unambiguous pronunciation" in the PNG feature list :laugh:

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              Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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                Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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                Daniel Grunwald
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                I looked around some more, and found that the authors of PNG were very specific:

                No detail was too small for consideration in the authors' quest for a near-perfect image format; yea, verily, even the acronym and pronunciation were major topics of discussion. The reason, of course, is the GIF format; some pronounce it with a soft G like giraffe, some with a hard G like gift, and no one really knows what they're talking about. (For the record, the soft G is correct; it is how the author of the format pronounces it.) "PNG" is always spelled* "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping" in English, not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster. (For non-English speakers, the three-letter pronunciation is fine, however.) See the introduction to the PNG specification[^] (or the Scope section of the newer ISO/IEC/W3C version[^]) for the definitive statement on the matter. * Greg follows American English rules, but read spelt here if you "favour" the British "flavour." ;-)

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                  I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  aspdotnetdev wrote:

                  I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)

                  Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                    1. giff
                    2. jiff
                    3. never thought of it
                    4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                    5. who gives a spit

                    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                    (* stack overflow)

                    modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Indivara wrote:

                    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                    I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                    Regards, Nish


                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                      1. giff
                      2. jiff
                      3. never thought of it
                      4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                      5. who gives a spit

                      Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

                      (* stack overflow)

                      modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                      Fernando A Gomez F
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                      I always pronounce it as "hif"...

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                        Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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                        Maximilien
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                        pee-an-gee.

                        Watched code never compiles.

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                          GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                          1. giff
                          2. jiff
                          3. never thought of it
                          4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                          5. who gives a spit

                          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                          modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                          LloydA111
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                          I always say it as G (gap) I (gap) F.


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                            aspdotnetdev wrote:

                            I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?)

                            Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff". Just FYI :-) I am not aware of whether he pronounces gift as jift though.

                            Regards, Nish


                            My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            Steve Wilhite (inventor of the format) pronounces it "jiff".

                            Wow, even the creator of the format pronounces it incorrectly. :doh:

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                              Indivara wrote:

                              Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                              I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                              Regards, Nish


                              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              Indivara
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                              Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

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                                Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Indivara wrote:

                                Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

                                I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

                                Regards, Nish


                                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Another common difference I've noticed is PNG. How do you pronounce that?

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                                  Indivara
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                                  I never knew that it could be read as ping, I say P - N - G. Same with SQL - learned from books, and so did everyone else around me. GIF was jiff (imitating others)

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                                    I always pronounce it as "hif"...

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                                    Indivara
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                                    Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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                                      I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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                                      Indivara
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                                      That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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                                        Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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                                        Fernando A Gomez F
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                                        No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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                                          Indivara wrote:

                                          Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

                                          I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                          Indivara
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                                          That's a good idea, avoid the article and let the reader deal with it :-D

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