What will you say? If some person says " How are you ?"
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Yes, but we actually say "How d'y'do". This only applies to the English BTW, it confuses the hell out of the Americans. USians assume that we are just like them (after all the US was founded by the British for the most part and we sort of have the same language). Then they fall foul of the (often highly complex) social norms that we are all used to when they come to the UK. To a non-european (and to many European) UKian culture is probably every bit a odd as Japanese culture is to us. This book Watching The English[^] helped my wife explain a lot of my behaviour. The worst thing is that in the UK we think that we are normal, and everyone else is odd an inexplicable (comes from living on an island I suppose) :-).
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The worst thing is that in the UK we think that we are normal, and everyone else is odd an inexplicable
That is because we are normal and the rest of the world are weird!
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"I am well, how are you" is the correct response. Should they ask "How do you do?", the correct response is to say "How do you do?" back.
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Aah, so it's a colonial hangover when two Saffers greet each other with "Howzit!", neither really asking a question despite "howzit" being a badly contacted "how is it [with you]?", with "it" being "life in general".
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Hiren Solanki wrote:
All's well.
Nope. It's "AHL IS VELL!" in an Indian accent. That's a real winner.
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AHLL IZJJ VELL in Madhya Pradeshi accent. ALL IS BHELL in Bengali accent. OOLL IS WELL in Malayali accent (hey Nish :rolleyes: ) this can go on, you know? :)
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Dalek Dave wrote:
"I am well, how are you" is the correct response.
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932? Bollocks. The correct response is anything you damn well like and commonly is 'mustnt grumble', or, 'OK', or, 'not too bad'. Follwed by 'and you'? 'hows it hanging' is a more common greeting aswell, or 'hows it going' or 'hows life' or 'what do ya know' etc etc etc.
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fat_boy wrote:
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932?
No, says the social mores and correct usage of polite enquiry. But I suppose that you were never taught etiquette.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
"I am well, how are you" is the correct response.
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932? Bollocks. The correct response is anything you damn well like and commonly is 'mustnt grumble', or, 'OK', or, 'not too bad'. Follwed by 'and you'? 'hows it hanging' is a more common greeting aswell, or 'hows it going' or 'hows life' or 'what do ya know' etc etc etc.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
fat_boy wrote:
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932?
You've misread DD's post the correct answer to "Hello, how are you?" might be this ("I'm well, how are you"or "musn't grumble, and you?" or "well, and you?" etc). If someone asks "How do you do?" it's a formalism, the correct response is "How do you do back". If you actually answer the question, the person talking to you will peg you pretty low in the social scale (and the sort of person who ask that question will do this) or put it down to being foreign. You forget exactly how hidebound and class-concious English society still is.
fat_boy wrote:
'hows it hanging' is a more common greeting aswell
Where the 'hood? Have you ever heard anyone from the UK say that (except ironically)?
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yu-jian wrote:
Besides "Fine, Thank you " Is there anyother answer?
"Screw you, go away. I don't ever want to see you again." can be an answer too. :laugh:
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.
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AHLL IZJJ VELL in Madhya Pradeshi accent. ALL IS BHELL in Bengali accent. OOLL IS WELL in Malayali accent (hey Nish :rolleyes: ) this can go on, you know? :)
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
this can go on, you know?
Nah. Three idiots is plenty.
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fat_boy wrote:
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932?
No, says the social mores and correct usage of polite enquiry. But I suppose that you were never taught etiquette.
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Good manners have nothing to do with etiquete or social mores but everything to do with making people feel at ease. Using very formal greetings like these is therefore bad mannered. This is the big problem in the UK. The so called 'how to speak and behave' malaise left over from some kind of assumed Victorian morality or set of standards. Its bull. Complete utter bull and should be abandoned. Speak and act normally for christs sake.
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"Fit like, nae bad! Foos yer do's?" to which their response should be "fair flappin' an aye peckin'" Simples........
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
this can go on, you know?
Nah. Three idiots is plenty.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
Three idiots
:omg: have you watched this movie ?
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yu-jian wrote:
Besides "Fine, Thank you " Is there anyother answer?
"Screw you, go away. I don't ever want to see you again." can be an answer too. :laugh:
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.
It can be, but some fool didn't appriciate it.
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Depends on how I am at the time.
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fat_boy wrote:
Depends on how I am at the time.
You right. Here mine... Happy reply "Great, how are you?" Normal reply "I'm fine & you?" Sad reply "Yeah......you?"
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fat_boy wrote:
Says who? Mrs Dullpedant book of English Elocution published in 1932?
You've misread DD's post the correct answer to "Hello, how are you?" might be this ("I'm well, how are you"or "musn't grumble, and you?" or "well, and you?" etc). If someone asks "How do you do?" it's a formalism, the correct response is "How do you do back". If you actually answer the question, the person talking to you will peg you pretty low in the social scale (and the sort of person who ask that question will do this) or put it down to being foreign. You forget exactly how hidebound and class-concious English society still is.
fat_boy wrote:
'hows it hanging' is a more common greeting aswell
Where the 'hood? Have you ever heard anyone from the UK say that (except ironically)?
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
-Or-A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Keith Barrow wrote:
If you actually answer the question, the person talking to you will peg you pretty low in the social scale
And thats why I hate the UK. Its class ridden. I dont give a toss if some wanker objects to being given an answer when he asks 'how do you do'. And if he thinks I am in anyway 'lower class' then he can go f*** himself and his stupid class snobery. Christ, it really reminds me why I live in France!
Keith Barrow wrote:
You forget exactly how hidebound and class-concious English society still is.
No, unfortunately its all to fresh in my memory, and one of the principle reasons I hate the place and liive in France. (And by the way its the classism displayed by working class people that I find the most distrubing, for I have what is called a 'posh' accent, which has utterly bared me from enjoying the company of many people in the UK.) Vive la France! --edit-- As for 'hows it hanging' I have heard it a lot in the West Country.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
Three idiots
:omg: have you watched this movie ?
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Hiren Solanki wrote:
have you watched this movie ?
Watched it with the missus, and we heartily enjoyed it -- so it gets Both British and Chinese approval.
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fat_boy wrote:
Depends on how I am at the time.
You right. Here mine... Happy reply "Great, how are you?" Normal reply "I'm fine & you?" Sad reply "Yeah......you?"
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Down-votes are like kid's kisses don't reject it :-)
Do what you want quickly because the Doomsday on 2012 :-)5. Thats bang on everyday English. Not stuck up, not trying to be cool, not tryingn to sound working class.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
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that's 'life'.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
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It can be, but some fool didn't appriciate it.
Someone (only one) could use a few lessons in developing a sense of humour. :)
It was ever thus, the Neophiles will always rush out and get 'The Latest Thing' at a high price and with all the inherent faults - Dalek Dave.