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  • O ozgunique

    Hello everyone, I would like to start learning some language from ground up and have a pretty good knowledge about it and do freelance work and maybe in the future build a start-up company. Keeping in mind the technology trends, what do you think would be the best investment for such an adventure. Some options i have in mind are: iPhone programming, Silverlight, .Net etc. Can you give me some insight on this. Thank you all

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    Dr Walt Fair PE
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    In my experience you will do far better if you have problem and are looking for a solution than if you have a solution looking for a problem, unless it's a purely academic exercise. If it's academic, then study and learn whatever you want. If it supposed to be practical, figure out what problem you want to solve, then learn whatever it takes to solve it.

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    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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    • O ozgunique

      Hello everyone, I would like to start learning some language from ground up and have a pretty good knowledge about it and do freelance work and maybe in the future build a start-up company. Keeping in mind the technology trends, what do you think would be the best investment for such an adventure. Some options i have in mind are: iPhone programming, Silverlight, .Net etc. Can you give me some insight on this. Thank you all

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      Pete OHanlon
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      What's your passion? What would you do for free if you could? What topics get you excited? Bear in mind that technology trends tend to be irrelevant when you're learning; they come and go far too quickly to be relevant when you're new to the game. Don't limit yourself to computing. One of the things you'll find among most of the denizens of the Lounge is that they have wide ranging interests, and it's a thirst for knowledge that separates the jobbing developer from the good developer.

      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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      • O ozgunique

        Hello everyone, I would like to start learning some language from ground up and have a pretty good knowledge about it and do freelance work and maybe in the future build a start-up company. Keeping in mind the technology trends, what do you think would be the best investment for such an adventure. Some options i have in mind are: iPhone programming, Silverlight, .Net etc. Can you give me some insight on this. Thank you all

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        wizardzz
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        I'm going to make some assumptions based on what you have written. Since you are even mentioning iPhone programming, and mentioning Silverlight, and the fact that your end goal would be to create a start-up, but do freelance initially; is it safe to assume you would like to learn mobile development? Since development for iPhone is objective c and most others are not, it would mean making a decision to go the iPhone route vs. Windows/Droid/ETC route from the beginning. If you have an idea of the product you would like, it would probably be a good idea to do a cost / benefits analysis of going with iPhone development or not. Look at job postings, look at salaries, look at market share, consider who uses which mobile device (corporate professionals vs trend followers, etc). If my assumption regarding your pursuit of mobile development is wrong, you can ignore my entire post.

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        • O ozgunique

          Hello everyone, I would like to start learning some language from ground up and have a pretty good knowledge about it and do freelance work and maybe in the future build a start-up company. Keeping in mind the technology trends, what do you think would be the best investment for such an adventure. Some options i have in mind are: iPhone programming, Silverlight, .Net etc. Can you give me some insight on this. Thank you all

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          Marc Clifton
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          Learn an instrument. The language of music is purest. :) Marc

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            Learn an instrument. The language of music is purest. :) Marc

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

            I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            • O ozgunique

              Hello everyone, I would like to start learning some language from ground up and have a pretty good knowledge about it and do freelance work and maybe in the future build a start-up company. Keeping in mind the technology trends, what do you think would be the best investment for such an adventure. Some options i have in mind are: iPhone programming, Silverlight, .Net etc. Can you give me some insight on this. Thank you all

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              x86 assembler.

              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                x86 assembler.

                Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                Pete OHanlon
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                That's kind of evil. I like it, but it's evil. :-D

                I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                  That's kind of evil. I like it, but it's evil. :-D

                  I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                  He said he wanted to learn something from the ground up. Can't get anymore low-level than assembler.

                  Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                    Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in. Personally I find it really easy to learn stuff when it is in aid of whatever I'm actually interested in accomplishing.


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                    John C wrote:

                    Ideally you would *want* to make *something*, that would be your passion and the language and tools to do it would all be incidental and learned along the way to making something you really like and believe in.

                    Well said.  :thumbsup: I don't know anyone who decided to become a software engineer because they "hoped it would pay well." /ravi

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                      He said he wanted to learn something from the ground up. Can't get anymore low-level than assembler.

                      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                      100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

                      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

                        I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

                        Those are just, ummm, harmonics! :) Marc

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

                          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          Not good enough. You have manipulate the CPU with a AA battery and some wires on the leads of the CPU. Use a volt meter to check the results.

                          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                            Learn an instrument. The language of music is purest. :) Marc

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                            Luc Pattyn
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            The language of music

                            would that be C# or F#? :)

                            Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                              Not good enough. You have manipulate the CPU with a AA battery and some wires on the leads of the CPU. Use a volt meter to check the results.

                              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              You win.

                              I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                100100101010101... How's that for a bit more low level.

                                I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                fjdiewornncalwe
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                                Sorry. Too many bits for my liking...

                                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  You win.

                                  I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Gracious as ever, huh Pete? Take a 5 just for that :-)

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    Gracious as ever, huh Pete? Take a 5 just for that :-)

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    Thanks Nish. He deserved it - he did top my answer. I believe in rewarding positive behaviour.

                                    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      The language of music

                                      would that be C# or F#? :)

                                      Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                      Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                      would that be C# or F#?

                                      Db[^] Marc

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                        would that be C# or F#?

                                        Db[^] Marc

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                                        Luc Pattyn
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                                        I'm afraid I missed that before. Would I still be on time when I study it now, or has its future already passed? :)

                                        Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                        Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Not when I play it. I like it distorted.

                                          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Live life at 11! \m/

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