Windows 7
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The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
That's what you get for turning on show hidden/OS files. To allow badly written legacy apps (ie those that don't use win32 apis to get the folder locations) to keep working there're a whole mess of hidden shortcuts in the user folders. MS could've added yet another Really Really Really hidden files level; but 99% of us geeks who have show hidden files checked would just check Show Really Really Really hidden files as well so there'd not really be any point to it.
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It has something to do with junction points and backward compatibility for programs that are unaware of the new folder structure in Windows Vista and 7. Programs trying to use those old folders will be silently redirected to the new location. There are many more places Windows will show you that you may not have permission to open. One more is nothing new. You could always configure Explorer to not show protected OS files.
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DavidCrow wrote:
configure Explorer
ah, true, but I want to see those. need a different setting then.
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Right, I suspect I may have set my systems up incorrectly. Thanks for the tip.
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ok, I just remembered why I have 3 my documents. one is for backward compatibility. The second was my original 'my documents' which is now empty. The third is my relocated 'my documents'. I right clicked on the original my documents and set the location to a partition that I put all of my important files on and that gets backed up regularly.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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There is no reason I can see, it's a sign they still have not fixed the new security code to work properly
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The same here. No probs for me. The gods must really like you. :rolleyes: Or are you on MS blacklist? ;P The one thing I hate is the restriction to root(C:\) even when I run as admin(always) it still pops up the annoying stuff. Ultimate 64 here.
All the best, Dan
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When I do that it takes me to the appropriate directory. I set up a lot of windows 7 machines and none of them has exhibited the behavior you describe. (At least in the Libraries->Documents folder).
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In the folder, or in the treeview in the sidebar? If you have show hidden files on, you'll see both the working and non-working links in the folder. In the tree the non-working shortcuts still appear under Libraries->Documents->My Documents. I never noticed this until Richard MacCutchan pointed it out upthread, because the proper links work. The tree and folder view are inconsistent about what combination of Show hidden files (radio button) and hide protected OS files (checkbox) make them visible. Show hidden files (unselected), hide protected files (unchecked) will hide them in the folder, but not the tree. To clear them from the tree you need hide protected files checked. I haven't tested all combinations, but by default have everything shown and just deal with seeing stuff I'm not supposed to. :rolleyes:
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Right, I suspect I may have set my systems up incorrectly. Thanks for the tip.
I must get a clever new signature for 2011.
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Be sure to get 64-bit pc. Of course, most pc sold now are 64-bit capable. There's nothing like running two Visual Studios, VMWare, Firefox, and Pandora on a 12GB pc with dual quad-core cpus and W7x64 (less than 50% memory). :)
Best wishes, Hans
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In Windows Explorer try going to Libraries -> Documents in the left-hand window. Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.
I must get a clever new signature for 2011.
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In the folder, or in the treeview in the sidebar? If you have show hidden files on, you'll see both the working and non-working links in the folder. In the tree the non-working shortcuts still appear under Libraries->Documents->My Documents. I never noticed this until Richard MacCutchan pointed it out upthread, because the proper links work. The tree and folder view are inconsistent about what combination of Show hidden files (radio button) and hide protected OS files (checkbox) make them visible. Show hidden files (unselected), hide protected files (unchecked) will hide them in the folder, but not the tree. To clear them from the tree you need hide protected files checked. I haven't tested all combinations, but by default have everything shown and just deal with seeing stuff I'm not supposed to. :rolleyes:
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Tree view - yes, I have the can't clickies. In the folder it depends on what I'm looking at. I still have the can't clickies, but in the Library->Documents view I can click through. I always display system files, hidden folders/files and file extensions. I also set my Java/Flash/Browser caches to 8 MB, and set my browsers to clear everything on closing. Things just work better that way.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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Be sure to get 64-bit pc. Of course, most pc sold now are 64-bit capable. There's nothing like running two Visual Studios, VMWare, Firefox, and Pandora on a 12GB pc with dual quad-core cpus and W7x64 (less than 50% memory). :)
Best wishes, Hans
All Microsoft Server OS's from 2008 R2 on are 64-bit only. I suspect Windows 7 might be their last desktop OS that gives you the 32-bit choice. The latest sales figures I've seen show a really high percentage of 64-bit sales vs 32-bit sales. You'd be crazy not to get a 64-bit OS these days. Just my opinion. Just don't get XP 64-bit because that version bites ЧЛЕН. :laugh:
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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How very odd and Microsoft-like.
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The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
It only does that if you have elected to show hidden system files.
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All Microsoft Server OS's from 2008 R2 on are 64-bit only. I suspect Windows 7 might be their last desktop OS that gives you the 32-bit choice. The latest sales figures I've seen show a really high percentage of 64-bit sales vs 32-bit sales. You'd be crazy not to get a 64-bit OS these days. Just my opinion. Just don't get XP 64-bit because that version bites ЧЛЕН. :laugh:
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
Sean Cundiff wrote:
bites ЧЛЕН.
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The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I've had various issues with "my documents" and related folders. I like to have my entire "Documents and Settings" (now "Users") folder on a separate disk to my boot disk as my boot disk is an SSD and I want to avoid unnecessary writes to all the app data / local settings / temp folders etc. It was a hassle doing it in XP but even more of one in 7 due to the zillions of junction points that are already there, the UAC and the weird way windows search works (finding 2 copies of a file that only exists once because it's on H: but there is a junction on C: that point to it, etc). In an ideal world windows would just provide a simple option to relocate the entire user data tree, and also wouldn't write tons of crap in the windows folder (winsxs, prefetch, the temp folder within windows, etc). If I do a backup of what's changed, just within my user folder, simply between shutting down and starting my computer back up, even though I've not ran anything, over a gigabyte has changed. Anyway I'm going off on a mad tangent of rants so I'll stop here, overall in most respects I agree that 7 is an improvement over XP. I skipped vista completely.
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I've had various issues with "my documents" and related folders. I like to have my entire "Documents and Settings" (now "Users") folder on a separate disk to my boot disk as my boot disk is an SSD and I want to avoid unnecessary writes to all the app data / local settings / temp folders etc. It was a hassle doing it in XP but even more of one in 7 due to the zillions of junction points that are already there, the UAC and the weird way windows search works (finding 2 copies of a file that only exists once because it's on H: but there is a junction on C: that point to it, etc). In an ideal world windows would just provide a simple option to relocate the entire user data tree, and also wouldn't write tons of crap in the windows folder (winsxs, prefetch, the temp folder within windows, etc). If I do a backup of what's changed, just within my user folder, simply between shutting down and starting my computer back up, even though I've not ran anything, over a gigabyte has changed. Anyway I'm going off on a mad tangent of rants so I'll stop here, overall in most respects I agree that 7 is an improvement over XP. I skipped vista completely.
Dave Parker wrote:
I like to have my entire "Documents and Settings" (now "Users") folder
Can you still change the path by slipstreaming it in the install disk?
Dave Parker wrote:
I want to avoid unnecessary writes to all the app data / local settings / temp folders etc.
I think you're probably worrying over nothing. After ~16 months of storing everything except media files on my primary desktop, my Indilynx Barefoot SSD was at 96% lifetime left.
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Dave Parker wrote:
I like to have my entire "Documents and Settings" (now "Users") folder
Can you still change the path by slipstreaming it in the install disk?
Dave Parker wrote:
I want to avoid unnecessary writes to all the app data / local settings / temp folders etc.
I think you're probably worrying over nothing. After ~16 months of storing everything except media files on my primary desktop, my Indilynx Barefoot SSD was at 96% lifetime left.
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You probably can change the path by slipstreaming but at the time I thought that would be more work, but I might consider it next time. I probably do worry to much about writes, I think that writes are pretty slow on my X25M SSD though. I have a game called City Life which used to be installed to Program Files on my SSD and I noticed it taking a huge amount of time starting up compared to when it was on a HD and it turned out it was creating a several gigabyte temp file in its own folder (not the temp folder for some reason) each time it ran. I ended up playing about with junctions keeping parts of the game on SSD and parts on HDD to get the best performance.
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Hey! Where have you been - it's been a while since you posted...
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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You probably can change the path by slipstreaming but at the time I thought that would be more work, but I might consider it next time. I probably do worry to much about writes, I think that writes are pretty slow on my X25M SSD though. I have a game called City Life which used to be installed to Program Files on my SSD and I noticed it taking a huge amount of time starting up compared to when it was on a HD and it turned out it was creating a several gigabyte temp file in its own folder (not the temp folder for some reason) each time it ran. I ended up playing about with junctions keeping parts of the game on SSD and parts on HDD to get the best performance.
sequential write speed was the one liability of the Intel controller. When it first came out it smoked everyone on random writes, but they had to hurt sequential performance to do that. It was a reasonable tradeoff since huge sequential writes are relatively rare, while random IO suckage is common. Current generation SSD controllers smoke intel on both fronts.
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The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I'm going to bet that you also see a "Documents and Settings" folder under the C: drive. So why would MS put this folder in place when Win7 doesn't use it? Could it be because MS have to content with lazy programmers that don't follow guidelines and try to do things their own way forcing MS to put rubbish like this into their system. Anyway just turn off "Show hidden files, folders and drives" and those folders you can't access will disappear.
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