Why newbies should pick C# over VB!
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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It's a simple (and free) matter to convert from C# to VB... I answer some questions the way you described, not because I don't know the VB syntax, but becauise it's faster to provide the answer in terms of C# because that's just the way I think. Since .Net is .Net regardless of the language, and if the questioner wants to do the conversion work, the answer is there.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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It's a simple (and free) matter to convert from C# to VB... I answer some questions the way you described, not because I don't know the VB syntax, but becauise it's faster to provide the answer in terms of C# because that's just the way I think. Since .Net is .Net regardless of the language, and if the questioner wants to do the conversion work, the answer is there.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997There are some subtle differences though, not syntactically but in the semantics (which affects design). Really good VB.NET developers will be able to identify these small differences. Although, 99% of the questions are simple enough that a VB-C# two-way converter would work out fine.
Regards, Nish
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
there are several bad C# devs answering questions too
Not on CP though. :)
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
there are several bad C# devs answering questions too
Not on CP though. :)
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Well there's me anyway :-D
Regards, Nish
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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Well there's me anyway :-D
Regards, Nish
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Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Slowly and sheepishly raises hand.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Okay, there's two of us now - we need an union or at least a club now!
Regards, Nish
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It's a simple (and free) matter to convert from C# to VB... I answer some questions the way you described, not because I don't know the VB syntax, but becauise it's faster to provide the answer in terms of C# because that's just the way I think. Since .Net is .Net regardless of the language, and if the questioner wants to do the conversion work, the answer is there.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997It's generally trivial for an experienced dev to do the conversion; but newbies aren't experienced and generally don't know the available tools. Besides which, if it really was that easy, why don't you do it for them instead of making questionable assumptions about the noobs ability?
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It's generally trivial for an experienced dev to do the conversion; but newbies aren't experienced and generally don't know the available tools. Besides which, if it really was that easy, why don't you do it for them instead of making questionable assumptions about the noobs ability?
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Yeah, I agree. Many of the questions asked have solutions that are far easier to do than using an online converter (and I am fully serious here). It's unlikely that someone asking how to set the text of a child form from the parent will know how to use a converter, or if they use one, then unless the auto-conversion gives them perfectly copy/paste-able and compilable code, they'll struggle at using the converted code anyway.
Regards, Nish
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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True... I used to be primarily a VB developer, but once I moved to C# in the CLR 1.0 days, I never looked back. So I know the VB syntax, for the most part, but I moved to C# before I started using generics, and long before LINQ came along and added anonymous methods... So I still have to do a translation in my head when trying to describe anything complex.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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It's generally trivial for an experienced dev to do the conversion; but newbies aren't experienced and generally don't know the available tools. Besides which, if it really was that easy, why don't you do it for them instead of making questionable assumptions about the noobs ability?
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Dan Neely wrote:
It's generally trivial for an experienced dev to do the conversion; but newbies aren't experienced and generally don't know the available tools. Besides which, if it really was that easy, why don't you do it for them
Because I don't want to look like I'm advocating the continued use of VB.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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All differences in the languages aside (are there any ;P ), the main reason to pick C# for .NET development is that C# is the .NET language. All other languages may be dropped down the road, but C# will be alive as long as .NET is alive. BCL itself is written in C#, and Microsoft is using C# in some of its products (mostly servers). It is not going away. The same goes for Java on JVM. There are much nicer JVM languages than Java (Scala, Clojure, Fantom, ...) but Java is the JVM language and picking anything else for JVM development is an unnecessary risk.
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Okay, there's two of us now - we need an union or at least a club now!
Regards, Nish
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See my post. Make it three.
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All differences in the languages aside (are there any ;P ), the main reason to pick C# for .NET development is that C# is the .NET language. All other languages may be dropped down the road, but C# will be alive as long as .NET is alive. BCL itself is written in C#, and Microsoft is using C# in some of its products (mostly servers). It is not going away. The same goes for Java on JVM. There are much nicer JVM languages than Java (Scala, Clojure, Fantom, ...) but Java is the JVM language and picking anything else for JVM development is an unnecessary risk.
Agree, although I don't see VB going away in the next 6-7 years.
Regards, Nish
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See my post. Make it three.
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Wow, we are almost a registered organization now!
Regards, Nish
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All differences in the languages aside (are there any ;P ), the main reason to pick C# for .NET development is that C# is the .NET language. All other languages may be dropped down the road, but C# will be alive as long as .NET is alive. BCL itself is written in C#, and Microsoft is using C# in some of its products (mostly servers). It is not going away. The same goes for Java on JVM. There are much nicer JVM languages than Java (Scala, Clojure, Fantom, ...) but Java is the JVM language and picking anything else for JVM development is an unnecessary risk.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
BCL itself is written in C#
Really? How'd you find that out?
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
BCL itself is written in C#
Really? How'd you find that out?
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Here's a very good reason for newbies to use C# as opposed to VB.NET. When you ask questions in a forum, you'll find that there are more people answering questions who are familiar with C# than there are VB guys. And while this is potentially a controversial thing to say, the typical C# developer who's answering questions is bound to give better and more accurate answers than the typical VB developer. Note how I said typical - there are several bad C# devs answering questions too, although percentage wise, there are many more bad VB answerers. What prompted this post is that I've frequently seen VB questions taking longer to get answered because most of the guys answering there don't know VB syntax. Or sometimes the guy answering has to prefix his answer with, "I don't really know VB syntax, but in C# you can do it this way, and hopefully you can convert that to VB..."
Regards, Nish
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