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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    You have to have a H1B visa, and from what I understand, it's much harder to get those than they used to be. If you want to work as a programmer for a US company, move to India.

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    Renat Khabibulin
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    India? No, thanks! Work for US company I can from Russia as well :) I wanna live in US

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    • R Renat Khabibulin

      Hi everyone! How do you think if it is possible to find legal job in the USA with 3 years of commercial experience? Right now I am a have a position of Senior .Net developer at Luxoft. If there is anyone, who has moved to the USA...tell me how it was? Was it hard? How did you find your employer? Thanks :)

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      AndyInUK
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      If i was in your position - i would not think for moving to US for now at least - immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. Let the fire get cool down a bit and then move to States - but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US :wtf: ?

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        Pick a major city, get the appropriate Visa and humble yourself and the first job will be easy to obtain. Post an ad on Craig's List

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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        Renat Khabibulin
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        I have profile on craiglist, on linkedin, etc..etc..etc...But it is much more hard than seemed before :) No one want to be a sponsor...

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        • A AndyInUK

          If i was in your position - i would not think for moving to US for now at least - immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. Let the fire get cool down a bit and then move to States - but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US :wtf: ?

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          Renat Khabibulin
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          hehe :) I have a girlfriend, so dont need other Russian girls :laugh: > immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. what do you mean?

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            Why would you even want to do that?

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            Renat Khabibulin
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            you ask...

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            • R Renat Khabibulin

              Hi everyone! How do you think if it is possible to find legal job in the USA with 3 years of commercial experience? Right now I am a have a position of Senior .Net developer at Luxoft. If there is anyone, who has moved to the USA...tell me how it was? Was it hard? How did you find your employer? Thanks :)

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              Dan Neely
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              With the H1B visa supply tightly limited your best bet might be to get hired for a multinational and try to get transferred to a US office after the fact. An acquaintance of mine did that. He started for MS Vancouver and was transferred to the Redmond office a year or two later.

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              • R Renat Khabibulin

                India? No, thanks! Work for US company I can from Russia as well :) I wanna live in US

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                realJSOP
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                I'm sure that an appropriate google serach will help you move here LEGALLY.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  You have to have a H1B visa, and from what I understand, it's much harder to get those than they used to be. If you want to work as a programmer for a US company, move to India.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Gregory Gadow
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                  H-1Bs are (in theory) only available for specialities such as engineering, biotech, medicine and other highly skilled "specialty occupations." In addition, the visa holder must have a bachelor's degree or equivalent from an internationally accredited university; mere work experience is not sufficient. A visa holder may only work for the sponsoring company, which must benefit directly from the worker's skills: the sponsor may not be an agency or other placement or work-for-hire outsourcer, and if the visa holder leaves the employ of that sponsor, he must either get a new visa with his new employer or leave the country. Again, all in theory. H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time getting resident status. The visas have gotten much more difficult to get in the last few years mainly because US companies have been abusing the program to Hell and back: there is a glut of cheap immigrant labor that has displaced equally qualified American workers. There was a high profile case about two years ago in Florida, where an insurance company had hired about 40 H-1B workers as unskilled operators taking claims information over the phone. There are other types of work permits, such as the EAD (employment authorization document) issued by the Immigration Service. They have few restrictions, but are designed more for people who either will be staying only a short time (students on work-study programs or non-residents working in the US for a foreign-based company) or as a temporary measure on the path to getting resident alien status (aka a "green card.") Best of luck.

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                  • A AndyInUK

                    If i was in your position - i would not think for moving to US for now at least - immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. Let the fire get cool down a bit and then move to States - but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US :wtf: ?

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                    GenJerDan
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                    AndyInUK wrote:

                    but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US :WTF: ?

                    But he could mention them to any prospective employer, saying he'd be willing to bring a half-dozen or so with him. Ah, Snezhana and Marina...miss you...sometimes. :sigh:

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                    • R Renat Khabibulin

                      Hi everyone! How do you think if it is possible to find legal job in the USA with 3 years of commercial experience? Right now I am a have a position of Senior .Net developer at Luxoft. If there is anyone, who has moved to the USA...tell me how it was? Was it hard? How did you find your employer? Thanks :)

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                      Mladen Jankovic
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                      Since you're Russian you'll have no problem getting a job at 'Infinity Ward' :D

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                      • R Renat Khabibulin

                        hehe :) I have a girlfriend, so dont need other Russian girls :laugh: > immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. what do you mean?

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                        AndyInUK
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                        Renat Khabibulin wrote:

                        what do you mean?

                        osama bin laden died recently - do i need to say anymore ? His followers are in preparation for major attacks. So Russia seams to be safer than States at the moment unless you live in some small not popular city in States. Anyway all the best!

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                          Pick a major city, get the appropriate Visa and humble yourself and the first job will be easy to obtain. Post an ad on Craig's List

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                          Gregory Gadow
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                          A work permit cannot be obtained until the person has a job, so finding employment has to come before getting the appropriate visa. This can actually work to the person's benefit, as a large firm will have much more experience navigating the process on behalf of a visa applicant than the applicant himself. Trust me: Kafka was writing about US immigration policy and law. X|

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            You have to have a H1B visa, and from what I understand, it's much harder to get those than they used to be. If you want to work as a programmer for a US company, move to India.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            If you want to work as a programmer for a US company, move to India.

                            :laugh:

                            Regards, Nish


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                            • R Renat Khabibulin

                              you ask...

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                              Dima Popov
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                              But why the USA? I suppose moving to Europe would be easier.

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                              • G Gregory Gadow

                                H-1Bs are (in theory) only available for specialities such as engineering, biotech, medicine and other highly skilled "specialty occupations." In addition, the visa holder must have a bachelor's degree or equivalent from an internationally accredited university; mere work experience is not sufficient. A visa holder may only work for the sponsoring company, which must benefit directly from the worker's skills: the sponsor may not be an agency or other placement or work-for-hire outsourcer, and if the visa holder leaves the employ of that sponsor, he must either get a new visa with his new employer or leave the country. Again, all in theory. H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time getting resident status. The visas have gotten much more difficult to get in the last few years mainly because US companies have been abusing the program to Hell and back: there is a glut of cheap immigrant labor that has displaced equally qualified American workers. There was a high profile case about two years ago in Florida, where an insurance company had hired about 40 H-1B workers as unskilled operators taking claims information over the phone. There are other types of work permits, such as the EAD (employment authorization document) issued by the Immigration Service. They have few restrictions, but are designed more for people who either will be staying only a short time (students on work-study programs or non-residents working in the US for a foreign-based company) or as a temporary measure on the path to getting resident alien status (aka a "green card.") Best of luck.

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time getting resident status.

                                Not fully accurate. H-1B is a dual-intent Visa, unlike say the TN or B1 Visas. So an H-1B visa holder can file for permanent residency.

                                Regards, Nish


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                                  Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                  H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time getting resident status.

                                  Not fully accurate. H-1B is a dual-intent Visa, unlike say the TN or B1 Visas. So an H-1B visa holder can file for permanent residency.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  Gregory Gadow
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                  H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time
                                  getting resident status.

                                  Not fully accurate. H-1B is a dual-intent Visa, unlike say the TN or B1 Visas. So an H-1B visa holder can file for permanent residency.

                                  I sit corrected. It was my understanding that the H-1B program was specifically for people on non-immigration tracks, and that those seeking permanent residence were given other types of work permits.

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                                  • A AndyInUK

                                    If i was in your position - i would not think for moving to US for now at least - immediately after brutal murder of CEO of Al-queda. Let the fire get cool down a bit and then move to States - but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US :wtf: ?

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                                    Sandesh M Patil
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                                    AndyInUK wrote:

                                    but Russian girls are so pretty - why do you want to leave them and move to US

                                    ;P

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                                    • A AndyInUK

                                      Renat Khabibulin wrote:

                                      what do you mean?

                                      osama bin laden died recently - do i need to say anymore ? His followers are in preparation for major attacks. So Russia seams to be safer than States at the moment unless you live in some small not popular city in States. Anyway all the best!

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                                      Dima Popov
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                                      In fact, terrorist attacks happen much more often in Russia.

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                                      • G Gregory Gadow

                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                        H-1B is also a "non-immgrant" visa, and visa holders will have a difficult time
                                        getting resident status.

                                        Not fully accurate. H-1B is a dual-intent Visa, unlike say the TN or B1 Visas. So an H-1B visa holder can file for permanent residency.

                                        I sit corrected. It was my understanding that the H-1B program was specifically for people on non-immigration tracks, and that those seeking permanent residence were given other types of work permits.

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                        I sit corrected. It was my understanding that the H-1B program was specifically for people on non-immigration tracks, and that those seeking permanent residence were given other types of work permits.

                                        Yes, it is rather confusing. H-1B does fall under non-immigrant category, but it does not require the applicant to prove intent to leave. Once your Green Card process is underway, and your H-1B has expired, if you've crossed a certain stage in the GC process, you can get an EAD (which is a little better than the H-1B since it lets you switch employers). Trouble with an EAD obtained that way is that it's annual - so you need to renew it every year. And if you ever travel out of the States, you need something called an Advanced Parole to re-enter. Sometimes at airports and other ports of entry, people with EAD/AP have a toughter time than those with stamped Visas. So there are pros and cons.

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I'm sure that an appropriate google serach will help you move here LEGALLY.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                          Renat Khabibulin
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                                          I now how to move legally :) I think if it is possible to find a visa sponsor :confused:

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