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  • O Oakman

    _Josh_ wrote:

    I was very lucky to get away with it, had I received a custodial sentence or even had a conviction for assault recorded I would have suffered for it for the remainder of my life.

    I wish I could argue with your conclusions, but I can't, except to say that were I on your jury, you would not have been convicted.

    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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    _Damian S_
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    Oakman wrote:

    were I on your jury, you would not have been convicted.

    Trouble is, it was purely pre-meditated and vengeful. Noone can argue with the motive, but that which stops us from anarchy is the ability to let the law take its course rather than taking it into your own hands... Matter of fact, there are a number of cases where similar has happened and it's actually harmed the prosecution case against the person on the end of the beating. Josh was very lucky indeed...

    Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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      Joe Simes wrote:

      Can you point out the funny part?

      No. Fat body can't point out the funny part because he's a tard.

      ----------------------------- Just along for the ride. -----------------------------

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      Munchies_Matt
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      Oh look, some one else with no sense of humour.

      "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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        fat__boy wrote:

        Every thing said in this post is a joke

        Really? Can you point out the funny part?

        The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card

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        Munchies_Matt
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        I meant the other definition of joke. As I am sure you understood.

        "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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        • O Oakman

          _Josh_ wrote:

          I was very lucky to get away with it, had I received a custodial sentence or even had a conviction for assault recorded I would have suffered for it for the remainder of my life.

          I wish I could argue with your conclusions, but I can't, except to say that were I on your jury, you would not have been convicted.

          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          You cant have third parties stepping in and mmeting out justice as they see fit and the law NOT act. Its entirely different if the victim acts, and particularly at the time of the original offense. So in this case Joshs girlfriend beating the guy senseless with a bat ay the time of the original offense would be perfectly OK. Doing so weeks later would be premeditated and not OK. Its a sublte thing but you have to have momentarially lost your mind due to fear (from being pushed past the point of reason) to be clear of any culpability when you act. This lady should be convicted. She torched the guy not only some time after he taunted her but years after the rape. Western Law is NOT based on a tooth for a tooth. :)

          "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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          • L Lost User

            Oakman wrote:

            Then it was a learning experience for you - as well as for the rapist?

            The throw away line here is that I should have used a bat but really I learnt a lot. Is was an immature and ultimately pointless response. He would have suffered far more as a child rapist in a high security gaol. I was very lucky to get away with it, had I received a custodial sentence or even had a conviction for assault recorded I would have suffered for it for the remainder of my life. No love is as blind as that of a 17 year old.

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            Firo Atrum Ventus
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            _Josh_ wrote:

            The throw away line here is that I should have used a bat

            A 5 for realizing that

            _Josh_ wrote:

            No love is as blind as that of a 17 year old

            No, a 71 years old could do the same

            A hidden needle is way more effective than an unsheathed sword.

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            • M Majerus

              jschell wrote:

              someone to which that has happened might have a different viewpoint.

              They might indeed. Like I said "Understandable, but not justifiable."

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              Majerus wrote:

              They might indeed. Like I said "Understandable, but not justifiable."

              In your opinion.

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                Majerus wrote:

                They might indeed. Like I said "Understandable, but not justifiable."

                In your opinion.

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                Majerus
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                No shit, Sherlock.

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                • S Slacker007

                  Well, we agree to disagree.

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                  Oakman
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                  The univoter seems to have taken a dislike to your reasoned responses. I have have brought you back into the black.

                  The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                  • _ _Damian S_

                    Oakman wrote:

                    were I on your jury, you would not have been convicted.

                    Trouble is, it was purely pre-meditated and vengeful. Noone can argue with the motive, but that which stops us from anarchy is the ability to let the law take its course rather than taking it into your own hands... Matter of fact, there are a number of cases where similar has happened and it's actually harmed the prosecution case against the person on the end of the beating. Josh was very lucky indeed...

                    Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                    Oakman
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                    _Damian S_ wrote:

                    Trouble is, it was purely pre-meditated and vengeful.

                    I've always been a fan of the Batman. I do understand what you are talking about and am forced to agree.

                    _Damian S_ wrote:

                    Josh was very lucky indeed...

                    Perhaps, but Cops, D.A.'s and juries have all declined to prosecute people who are technically guilty, many, many times

                    _Damian S_ wrote:

                    actually harmed the prosecution case against the person on the end of the beating.

                    Once again we are left with the law making it more advantageous to kill someone than simply to injure them. I am not saying that is what Josh should have done, but I am pointing out that there is a loophole that encourages extremism.

                    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                    • O Oakman

                      A Spanish mother has taken revenge on the man who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. He died of his injuries in hospital on Friday. Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca. While there, he passed his victim’s mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out “How’s your daughter?”, before heading into a crowded bar. Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.[^] Hope they give her a medal.

                      The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      Hope they give her a medal.

                      This was 6 years ago. I wonder what did happen to her? Not being able to use her name makes following up rather difficult.

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Hope they give her a medal.

                        This was 6 years ago. I wonder what did happen to her? Not being able to use her name makes following up rather difficult.

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        Oakman
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                        Dan Neely wrote:

                        This was 6 years ago.

                        Good catch. I never saw that.

                        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          This was 6 years ago.

                          Good catch. I never saw that.

                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                          Dan Neely
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                          The only reason I noticed was that he was sentenced to 9 years, but the attack happened well over a decade ago, which had me wondering if the 3day pass was actually a probation system with very frequent checkins.

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            Oakman wrote:

                            Hope they give her a medal.

                            This was 6 years ago. I wonder what did happen to her? Not being able to use her name makes following up rather difficult.

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Found a followup by searching for the dirtbag's name. She was originally sentenced to 9 years, reduced to 5 on appeal, and pardoned after just over 1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/04/maria-carmen-garcia-spani_n_831372.html[^]

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            • M Majerus

                              No shit, Sherlock.

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                              jschell
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                              Thus others, quite reasonably, are allowed to think that it is justifiable.

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                                Thus others, quite reasonably, are allowed to think that it is justifiable.

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                                Majerus
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                                Others, quite reasonably, are allowed to think whatever they like, even when they are wrong.

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                                • J jschell

                                  Majerus wrote:

                                  Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

                                  Have you or someone close to you that you love been raped? Has someone close to you been deliberately killed in a violent way? Has either of those happened to someone that you were specifically supposed to be looking out for (such as a child)? If you answer is no then perhaps someone to which that has happened might have a different viewpoint.

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                                  enhzflep
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                                  :(( Yes, Yes, No. While it _is_ understandable to me, it's still no excuse. It's hateful actions like hers that don't contribute to life being a better experience. (Nor did his, not by a long long long shot) Retalliation and retribution do not make for the ingredients of civility and harmony:rose:. Hope she rots in jail!:mad:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I'll pay for the petrol. The reason? How many other rapes did she prevent?

                                    Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP

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                                    enhzflep
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                                    Not sure. Did the other prisoners find him appealing?:~

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