Uh oh, if the Germans get pissed of enough its the end of the Euro.
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Obviously you are another one of those xenophobic Germans.
Chris C-B wrote:
In fact, this was the main reason that the EU established a procedure to 'audit' the books of countries wishing to join the Euro Zone.
That's a good example of locking the barn door after the horse is stolen.
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Ᵽompey wrote:
is its the governments fault for putting Germany in a currency which has so many weak links
That is the case, starting with the Nazi Government. There you can lay the blame squarely.
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fat__boy wrote:
Why does the US have so few riots and Europe a reasonable number
Because the US doesn't know how to have a good time. It's hard to riot from inside a car. So it would mean they would have to get out of the car. They would get hungry after 20 mins. :laugh: On a serious note I think the way everything is so far apart in the US inhibits the likelyhood of riots comparedd to the built-up European cities, also there is the history factor, the US is too young to have deep-rooted tribal feuds like Northern Ireland. Another factor is the guns both with the public and the police. We can go to London, smash things up, fight the pigs and the worst that will happen is a Truncheon round the head. If the police and a fair few rioters had guns that would largely reduce the numbers of 'game' rioters.
Thats part of it perhaps, though I think there is a deeper sentiment that arises from not feeling a recent inhabitant of a country. (Not that this stops race riots mind you, those are driven purely by recent inhabitants).
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Thats as may be and only if saying that Germany has been a scapegoat ecconomically because of its 'dark past' is a way to increase readership. It seems it might equally reduce it by mention the very thing Germans even today find it hard to talk about. What is certain is that the paper, as a German entity, is expressing a sentiment that given past events and the facts has at least an ellement of truth in it: German has always been the biggest net contributor to the EU, and France a net receiver (dont forget it only consisted of France, Germany, Italy, Belgium and Holland at the start). German has always paid and France has always got paid. The fact the EU evolved does not change its prime intent. I tell you what, I will ask the German girl at work what her take is on it. )(When she is back from her hols) :)
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Yes the Northern Europeans are hard working and the French, Spanish etc are lazy spongers.
fat__boy wrote:
I will ask the German girl at work what her take is on it. )(When she is back from her hols)
Has she gone to Greece, its cheap at the moment. :laugh: When you have asked her I'll ask the greek man who works in the local Kebab shop that should solve it once and for all.
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I don't think the Nazi goverment wanted a multi-state continent, using a newly created currency. In fact they went out of their way to create just the opposite.
Of course, but they certainly are reponsible for the creation of the EU and hence the euro.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Yes the Northern Europeans are hard working and the French, Spanish etc are lazy spongers.
fat__boy wrote:
I will ask the German girl at work what her take is on it. )(When she is back from her hols)
Has she gone to Greece, its cheap at the moment. :laugh: When you have asked her I'll ask the greek man who works in the local Kebab shop that should solve it once and for all.
Ᵽompey wrote:
Yes the Northern Europeans are hard working and the French, Spanish etc are lazy spongers.
It didnt say that. It said Germany is an ecconomic scape-goat because of its dark past. I really dont uinderstand how you can have this line from the paper pointed out to you again and agin and you completely fail to ether take it seriously or believe what it is saying.
Ᵽompey wrote:
Has she gone to Greece, its cheap at the moment. :laugh: When you have asked her I'll ask the greek man who works in the local Kebab shop that should solve it once and for all.
So I ask a German woman whether she feels shackeling Germany to the EU was a kind of punishment for WWII and you think that if she says 'yes' then the opinion of a Greek Kebab shop owner is a valid counter argument? Have you any logical ability at all?
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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fat__boy wrote:
Why does the US have so few riots and Europe a reasonable number
Because the US doesn't know how to have a good time. It's hard to riot from inside a car. So it would mean they would have to get out of the car. They would get hungry after 20 mins. :laugh: On a serious note I think the way everything is so far apart in the US inhibits the likelyhood of riots comparedd to the built-up European cities, also there is the history factor, the US is too young to have deep-rooted tribal feuds like Northern Ireland. Another factor is the guns both with the public and the police. We can go to London, smash things up, fight the pigs and the worst that will happen is a Truncheon round the head. If the police and a fair few rioters had guns that would largely reduce the numbers of 'game' rioters.
Ᵽompey wrote:
Another factor is the guns both with the public and the police
Ok so there is a positive for gun ownership, almost all arguments from the gun lobby seems to be upholding the personal freedom and right to defend your self, I've never actually heard anyone tout gun ownership as a method to reduce riots.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Ᵽompey wrote:
Another factor is the guns both with the public and the police
Ok so there is a positive for gun ownership, almost all arguments from the gun lobby seems to be upholding the personal freedom and right to defend your self, I've never actually heard anyone tout gun ownership as a method to reduce riots.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
I think it also decreases street fights, over here fighting is commonplace almost a past-time, especially in and around places with alcohol, (I alone have had two or three in the last year, and should have been four last week, but decided to leave it as a.) I was reluctant to spoil a good night b.) There was police presence at the event so arrest was inevitable, meaning my missus would have been in a different city late at night forced to make her way home alone. If there was a chance people were armed, people would be less reluctant to fight.
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Well, you did say major riots. Actualy, yo raise an interesting point. Why does the US have so few riots and Europe a reasonable number? Does it go back to the issue we discussed recently where people in the US feel they own their country, and therefore have too much respect for it, and love, to riot. Whereas Euopeans just feel like inhabitants of a particular piece of soil and need to shake the cage in order to get heard? After all, much of Europes current freedom comes from riots/revoloution. --edit-- And do you know what, I totally ignored riots by muslems. In which case yes, Denmark, Holand, Belgium all had riots in th past few years. Whats interesting is that I dont consider these people as part of these countries. :) --edit2-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_race_riots[^] Dependiong on what you call major the Belgium and Holland riots were fairly uninteresting. France is a biggy. Many of the other riots in Europe are between ethnic minorities and of little impact. Note though how active the UK is. It firly dwarves other countries, depending of course on how accurate wiki is.
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fat__boy wrote:
Actualy, yo raise an interesting point. Why does the US have so few riots and Europe a reasonable number?
Of course another alternative is that for the most part many US citizens are in fact happy enough with their lives that they don't need to express dissatisfaction in an extreme manner. Or perhaps they feel that they have sufficient effective alternative avenues to express dissatisfaction.
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Yeah, Countries needed to have shown 20 years of stability and financial maturity before joining. The UK would NOT be good enough to join given its recent financial childishness.
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fat__boy wrote:
he UK would NOT be good enough to join given its recent financial childishness.
Glad we didn't. Poxy third world currency the Euro, only good for wiping your arse on.
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