As we move inexorably towards the 10th anniversary
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im (somewhat) familiar with the events that lead up tot he formation of the english church, what i was getting at is: for the continued existence of 2 sepperate branches to be justified there needs to be significant difference between the two and there are, i believe, a number of differences with regards to things like: - the authority of the pope coming from god - confession - possession of wealth - proliferation of giant wooden thermometers - love of tea thus, if you are a devout bishop in CofE, no political/managerial decision within that organization should magically change your belief with regards to the authority of the pope (for example).If, therefore, bishops defect from CofE over a managerial decision they either did not fully believe what they were preaching in the CofE or will not believe what they are preaching in the catholic church
Pedis ex oris
The CofE and Catholicism are political power structures. Religion is often an inconvenience to their struggles to cling onto what power and influence they have.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
WTF is poppy day?
What? You, UK citizen, and ex army, and you dont know what poppy day is? Lets see what google says:http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=%22poppy+day%22&pbx=1&oq=%22poppy+day%22&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1700l3510l0l3697l11l9l0l0l0l0l546l2043l0.1.1.3.0.1l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b52565719a354932&biw=1272&bih=631[^] Oh look, there it is, as broad as daylight. Trying to hide your fallacy with feined ignorance? Tut tu, won't work here Dave. :) Oh, and yes, probably 10 years after WW1 widows were crying, and names were read out. I am sure in 100 years sept 11th will be a small ceremony. Give it time Dave, give it time. The wound is stil raw, the flesh not yet closed over.
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I actually have to agree with you here. I think Dave is upset at how much attention the US is getting on the tellie, or wishes he could meet Rachel Uchitel. I haven't watched tv in days, so maybe I'd be annoyed with how early it started. However, 10 years after a violent history changing event is not very long.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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I'd like to take this opportunity to remember Gavin MacMahon who was killed in the Twin Towers on 9/11. He was on the 99th floor when the plane hit and had only recently moved to America. He was so excited to be relocated there. It was his big adventure. I'd also like to remember his family, especially his dad Terry who had flown over to help him set up his apartment. Please, at this time, remember not only the people who lost their lives, but all those who were touched by the events of the day. The workers in the immediate vicinity - they will never forget the fear and horror. The emergency services. The families and friends. And please - no votes on this thread. This is a memorial, however feeble, to one of the nicest lads ever to walk the planet. Gav, you daft nowt, you're missed.
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Pete, I already knew that we'd walked many of the same streets from some of your previous posts, but dammit man I've got tears rolling down me bloody face now coz I've been thinking about the same daft get even more these last few days an' all. I've still got his AON business card on me desk, the last email he sent us in me inbox and I still know his mam's phone number from 30 years ago off by heart... I miss him man. Thanks for taking the time to let the other CPians know about him and for the chance to salute him too.
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BobJanova wrote:
(I don't believe for a moment they knew the towers would collapse like that).
No one thought they would collapse so readilly. I was shocked (ex structural engineer in steel buildings). Lots of planes have hit lots of buildings, never has one come aprt so easilly. When I read an inquest into the design I was not surprised though, it was shoddillly built.
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Pete, I already knew that we'd walked many of the same streets from some of your previous posts, but dammit man I've got tears rolling down me bloody face now coz I've been thinking about the same daft get even more these last few days an' all. I've still got his AON business card on me desk, the last email he sent us in me inbox and I still know his mam's phone number from 30 years ago off by heart... I miss him man. Thanks for taking the time to let the other CPians know about him and for the chance to salute him too.
Damn man, but it's good to know that he's living on with us. Here's to you Gav, and here's to you bonnie lad. Let's hoist a pint in his memory.
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