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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    You could always just browse through profiles and signature lines on CP and see if any one has any blatant advertising. There is also Craig's List but that is more trouble than it is worth. I have almost given up using it as a tool.

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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    Chris Losinger
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    now who would be so crass as to advertise in a .sig ?

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      :) Craig's list for development jobs? Never thought of that. We use it all the time at home for selling and buying stuff around the house, works great for that.


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      • W wizardzz

        Maybe he meant to say it like: "If you advertise on here, you'll pay for it, pay for it dearly!" :shaking fist in the air angrily:

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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        :laugh:


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          I'm not allowed to unfortunately. Chris has forbade it without paying for advertising, I'm just looking for somewhere to send them only, thanks.


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          (puts on shirt) "Will code for food."

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            We constantly get companies asking us to make custom software or utilities for them using our product's free .net API and we just don't have time or resources. People are usually asking for little utilities to shuttle data back and forth, simple stuff that they will happily pay for and I've done a lot of it in the past, simple and easy and lucrative. Problem is these aren't *jobs* or long term contracts, they're weekend type stuff in most cases so it's not falling in the category of stuff that companies would pay a lot of money to find a .net developer with spare time to do it. Support is asking me where to send them and I hesitate to say rent-a-coder. I don't know where the best place is to send these people for this kind of work. Any suggestions? [edit] Please don't ask me about the specifics, Chris does not allow it here even under this scenario where we don't make any money on it, I already asked. I'm just looking for a site to send people to.


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            When I was freelancing, I looked at oDesk, and it seemed an overall better setup than Rent-a-Coder. Maybe just check it out yourself and see.

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              We constantly get companies asking us to make custom software or utilities for them using our product's free .net API and we just don't have time or resources. People are usually asking for little utilities to shuttle data back and forth, simple stuff that they will happily pay for and I've done a lot of it in the past, simple and easy and lucrative. Problem is these aren't *jobs* or long term contracts, they're weekend type stuff in most cases so it's not falling in the category of stuff that companies would pay a lot of money to find a .net developer with spare time to do it. Support is asking me where to send them and I hesitate to say rent-a-coder. I don't know where the best place is to send these people for this kind of work. Any suggestions? [edit] Please don't ask me about the specifics, Chris does not allow it here even under this scenario where we don't make any money on it, I already asked. I'm just looking for a site to send people to.


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              Hans Dietrich
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              Assuming you haven't alienated all previous programmers who used to work there, refer the customer to an ex-employee. Alternatively, put together an SDK for your product, and then give the SDK (free) to programmers that you pre-qualify via a brief interview, and checking a few references. Obviously, if you give your customer any referrals, you must support the programmer, since you don't want to end up with an angry customer. This whole situation could be used to gain new sales through these 'affiliate' programmers, who would be motivated to do a good job, and bring in new sales - maybe getting a commission.

              Best wishes, Hans


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                Assuming you haven't alienated all previous programmers who used to work there, refer the customer to an ex-employee. Alternatively, put together an SDK for your product, and then give the SDK (free) to programmers that you pre-qualify via a brief interview, and checking a few references. Obviously, if you give your customer any referrals, you must support the programmer, since you don't want to end up with an angry customer. This whole situation could be used to gain new sales through these 'affiliate' programmers, who would be motivated to do a good job, and bring in new sales - maybe getting a commission.

                Best wishes, Hans


                [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                We already have a free, documented API publicly available, it's included with the software when it's installed (just not the docs) and it works completely with the trial version which has no time limit and we have a dedicated support forum (also free) for api issues so there is zero barrier to entry. I pushed it as a major priority Win/Win and all that.


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                  When I was freelancing, I looked at oDesk, and it seemed an overall better setup than Rent-a-Coder. Maybe just check it out yourself and see.

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                  Thanks, will look into it.


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                  • M Member 96

                    We constantly get companies asking us to make custom software or utilities for them using our product's free .net API and we just don't have time or resources. People are usually asking for little utilities to shuttle data back and forth, simple stuff that they will happily pay for and I've done a lot of it in the past, simple and easy and lucrative. Problem is these aren't *jobs* or long term contracts, they're weekend type stuff in most cases so it's not falling in the category of stuff that companies would pay a lot of money to find a .net developer with spare time to do it. Support is asking me where to send them and I hesitate to say rent-a-coder. I don't know where the best place is to send these people for this kind of work. Any suggestions? [edit] Please don't ask me about the specifics, Chris does not allow it here even under this scenario where we don't make any money on it, I already asked. I'm just looking for a site to send people to.


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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    Why not pay for a one off add here to see if you can get some responses, I have no idea what that would cost though. Personally I'd start by canvassing some of the names here and see if they are interested in putting up a support site, utilities for ??? product. Problem is you may end up with 15,000 juniors who will take more of your time than you are willing to spend. If you got 5-6 decent coders who are willing to accept titbits like this then it would be a win. If CM needs to be paid then there should be some sort of arrangement.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      I'm not allowed to unfortunately. Chris has forbade it without paying for advertising, I'm just looking for somewhere to send them only, thanks.


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                      ahhhh so CP is happy to take the input of programmers for content and thus increases CP's net worth, but not happy to assist them them to make some money out of it UNLESS CP clips the ticket along the way. Bryce (dancing along a line)

                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                        now who would be so crass as to advertise in a .sig ?

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Tart!

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          Why not pay for a one off add here to see if you can get some responses, I have no idea what that would cost though. Personally I'd start by canvassing some of the names here and see if they are interested in putting up a support site, utilities for ??? product. Problem is you may end up with 15,000 juniors who will take more of your time than you are willing to spend. If you got 5-6 decent coders who are willing to accept titbits like this then it would be a win. If CM needs to be paid then there should be some sort of arrangement.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                          Why not pay for a one off add here to see if you can get some responses, I have no idea what that would cost though.

                          Because we're in a recession, budgets are super tight and there is no value in it for the company. The api is free, the software can be used with the api for free for an unlimited amount of time. The support is free to developers via our api forum. All we want to do is connect developers with our customers who want custom coding done. We ask for nothing in return, no cut, no conditions at all. We even have a forum area just for developers and trainers and 3rd party people to post their availability - for free. I can't justify paying to advertise for that and I can also see how it doesn't really fit into anything currently here so I don't blame Chris for what he said those years ago. Just an old fashioned impasse I guess.


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                            ahhhh so CP is happy to take the input of programmers for content and thus increases CP's net worth, but not happy to assist them them to make some money out of it UNLESS CP clips the ticket along the way. Bryce (dancing along a line)

                            MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                            Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                            I don't blame Chris at all for his decision. It's an unusual sort of thing and doesn't fit into the mold of what they are accustomed to I guess.


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                              Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                              Why not pay for a one off add here to see if you can get some responses, I have no idea what that would cost though.

                              Because we're in a recession, budgets are super tight and there is no value in it for the company. The api is free, the software can be used with the api for free for an unlimited amount of time. The support is free to developers via our api forum. All we want to do is connect developers with our customers who want custom coding done. We ask for nothing in return, no cut, no conditions at all. We even have a forum area just for developers and trainers and 3rd party people to post their availability - for free. I can't justify paying to advertise for that and I can also see how it doesn't really fit into anything currently here so I don't blame Chris for what he said those years ago. Just an old fashioned impasse I guess.


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                              Mycroft Holmes
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                              Actuially it sounds like you have done everything you can except put a link in your Sig, which would get a lot of interest after this thread :-D And yes I understand your reasons for not doing this, exposing your successful SW company to some of these morons would be frightening.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                Actuially it sounds like you have done everything you can except put a link in your Sig, which would get a lot of interest after this thread :-D And yes I understand your reasons for not doing this, exposing your successful SW company to some of these morons would be frightening.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                And yes I understand your reasons for not doing this, exposing your successful SW company to some of these morons would be frightening.

                                Actually a few reasons: 1) I'm respecting Chris' wishes, 2) I value my anonymity here so I can say what I want without it reflecting on the company 3) I don't actually care enough about this to push it, it's not my department (other than I'm the one who gets asked where support should look for a source of outside developers to point customers to). 4) all the morons, just kidding there are very few morons here. :)


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                                  Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                  And yes I understand your reasons for not doing this, exposing your successful SW company to some of these morons would be frightening.

                                  Actually a few reasons: 1) I'm respecting Chris' wishes, 2) I value my anonymity here so I can say what I want without it reflecting on the company 3) I don't actually care enough about this to push it, it's not my department (other than I'm the one who gets asked where support should look for a source of outside developers to point customers to). 4) all the morons, just kidding there are very few morons here. :)


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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  I would suggest that you individually contact 2-3 CPian article authors that impress you (from 3rd world locations). Many of them would be happy to work for rates that are quite affordable by N.A. standards.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                    I don't blame Chris at all for his decision. It's an unusual sort of thing and doesn't fit into the mold of what they are accustomed to I guess.


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                                    indeed, and on the other hand he/they doesnt seem to mind people chucking in links to their websites etc so its all swings and roundabouts i suppose bryce

                                    MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                                      Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                      And yes I understand your reasons for not doing this, exposing your successful SW company to some of these morons would be frightening.

                                      Actually a few reasons: 1) I'm respecting Chris' wishes, 2) I value my anonymity here so I can say what I want without it reflecting on the company 3) I don't actually care enough about this to push it, it's not my department (other than I'm the one who gets asked where support should look for a source of outside developers to point customers to). 4) all the morons, just kidding there are very few morons here. :)


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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      John C wrote:

                                      1. I value my anonymity here so I can say what I want without it reflecting on the company

                                      With this as a primary reason it would not take many disgruntled idiots sour your CP experience. As Nish suggested get support to contact direct via article/rep etc.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        Mr. Humphries? :)

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