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    What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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      What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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      kjessee wrote: but MS Office ... still has the biggest market share. because it's bundled on every fucking PC that's sold! if people really had to pay the full retail price for that bloated P.O.S., they'd be using something else. Word = crap. -c


      There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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        kjessee wrote: but MS Office ... still has the biggest market share. because it's bundled on every fucking PC that's sold! if people really had to pay the full retail price for that bloated P.O.S., they'd be using something else. Word = crap. -c


        There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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        Bruce Duncan
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        The same could be said for Windows, IMHO.

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          What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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          Lost User
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          Yummy troll bait. You're either a troll or an idiot; you answered your own question. If MS Linux succeeded on merit alone, it would not be a monopoly; if they succeeded using illegal business practices (as they have been convicted of previously), it would be an illegal monopoly. (Remember, a monopoly in and if itself is not illegal; using that monopoly to enter other markets or artificially raise prices, ala RIAA, is.) evilpen dot net::msn messenger:negacao@hotmail.com

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            What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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            Maximilien
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            Corel tried something like that a few years back, didn't really work, even thought everyone ( linux oriented ) said their linux distro and setup were better than all the others. The linux community will not use a linux from Microsoft, even if it's better! and even if they have access to the sources. Max.

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              What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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              well in the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs, so perhaps it they have been there and done it?

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              • K kjessee

                What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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                kjessee wrote: What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux I would catch a ride to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn ;P -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                  kjessee wrote: What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux I would catch a ride to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn ;P -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                  :laugh::laugh::laugh:


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                    kjessee wrote: What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux I would catch a ride to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn ;P -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                    Russell Morris wrote: I would catch a ride to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn http://www.wtv-zone.com/Morgaine_OFaery/drawingrmmac/speckleduni.jpg[^]


                    There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                      What would happen if MS did the following. 1. Said "Lets do Linux" 2. Stop supporting all existing Windows software. 3. Created MS Linux 4. Created MS Office for Linux 5. Created Visual Studio for Linux If they did it better than everyone else and put Red Hat, Mandrake, etc out of business would it be unfair, Monoply? I agree that there business practices were/are questonable, but MS Office is the most expensive suite and still has the biggest market share.

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                      A more interesting question is: What would happen if WallMart started selling a non-wintel PC with non-MS office package for under $200? How soon (and how) would MSFT retaliate? Would this signal the beginning of the end of MSFT dominance in the desktop?[^] -Politician (n): A person who has nothing to contribute, but a lot to say. Rob

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                        kjessee wrote: but MS Office ... still has the biggest market share. because it's bundled on every fucking PC that's sold! if people really had to pay the full retail price for that bloated P.O.S., they'd be using something else. Word = crap. -c


                        There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                        Gee Chris, what got into you? :rolleyes: I agree that Word = crap. I always liked Word Perfect.

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                          Russell Morris wrote: I would catch a ride to work on a rainbow-farting unicorn http://www.wtv-zone.com/Morgaine_OFaery/drawingrmmac/speckleduni.jpg[^]


                          There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                          Russell Morris
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                          Chris Losinger wrote: _http://www.wtv-zone.com/Morgaine\_OFaery/drawingrmmac/speckleduni.jpg\[^\]_ :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Holy crap - what impeccable timing! -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                            Gee Chris, what got into you? :rolleyes: I agree that Word = crap. I always liked Word Perfect.

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                            Sycophantic Mircosoft zealots unleash the hateful beast within.


                            There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                              kjessee wrote: but MS Office ... still has the biggest market share. because it's bundled on every fucking PC that's sold! if people really had to pay the full retail price for that bloated P.O.S., they'd be using something else. Word = crap. -c


                              There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                              Chris Losinger wrote: if people really had to pay the full retail price for that bloated P.O.S., they'd be using something else. Word = crap. Actually, most people who would have to pay for it are using pirated copies... :suss: But for me, it's OpenOffice. Does everything I need so far... :cool: I'd like to find a free or lower cost alternative to Access, though. Got a friend using a questionable copy of Access, but wants to go legit, but can't really afford the whole thing. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                                A more interesting question is: What would happen if WallMart started selling a non-wintel PC with non-MS office package for under $200? How soon (and how) would MSFT retaliate? Would this signal the beginning of the end of MSFT dominance in the desktop?[^] -Politician (n): A person who has nothing to contribute, but a lot to say. Rob

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                                first, MS would sue said non-Windows OS maker, because all two syllable words that rhyme with the common, standard English word "windows" infringe on it's its brilliantly named OS, "Windows". the next steps should be interesting. -c


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                                  first, MS would sue said non-Windows OS maker, because all two syllable words that rhyme with the common, standard English word "windows" infringe on it's its brilliantly named OS, "Windows". the next steps should be interesting. -c


                                  There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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                                  And what if MS lost that suit? (The have so far, and in fact have made the Windows trademark subject to being declared an invalid trademark). R

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                                    And what if MS lost that suit? (The have so far, and in fact have made the Windows trademark subject to being declared an invalid trademark). R

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                                    OldRob wrote: And what if MS lost that suit? then the fun has begun! -c


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                                      well in the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs, so perhaps it they have been there and done it?

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                                      MS had some problems with AT&T with licensing. That is why they decided to create NT from scratch than use Xenix core. Actually, Gates said in an interview that AT&T does not know how to manage their intellectual property and has caused Unix not achieve its potential in the mas market. I think he was referring to a proposal, where MS wanted to build Windows on top of Xenix core like Mac OS X has a BSD core now. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                        OldRob wrote: And what if MS lost that suit? then the fun has begun! -c


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                                        they lost the suit already. Lindows is available in Walmart for 200 $ . http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2009643&cat=3951&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951[^] My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                          they lost the suit already. Lindows is available in Walmart for 200 $ . http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2009643&cat=3951&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951[^] My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          actually, it's been available for a long time. MS just got pissed about it after they saw it might be a threat. -c


                                          There's one easy way to prove the effectiveness of 'letting the market decide' when it comes to environmental protection. It's spelt 'S-U-V'. --Holgate, from Plastic

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