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  • R Rob Grainger

    Assuming that that icon is coffee, I can think of better ways of relaxing than imbibing stimulants. (ps. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of coffee, but not when I'm trying to chill or sleep).

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    cpkilekofp
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    When I was young, a cup of coffee with cream and sugar would put me to sleep. Ah, the hyperactivity of youth.....

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    • S Super Lloyd

      I was not very clear, in this sentence I was paraphrasing the Javascript biggot! But he doesn't convince me!!!! But I don't believe him! :P Javascript is not better, it's playing catching up, with blood and tears on top!

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      cpkilekofp
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      I thought MS had announced the impending scheduled death of Silverlight?

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      • L Lost User

        I despise the entire HTML stack. I loved the promise of the web but it's a nightmare putting together server side/client side code that uses entirely different technologies along with clunky HTML that has to work in several different browsers all against standards that aren't due out for another 10 years. Javascript is just one piece of the nightmare - the whole thing is a mess from start to finish. Unfortunately, it will never be fixed because the web is seen as international property and it's been handed over to a "consortium" that can take 10+ years to finalize a standard. That time line alone tells you all that needs to be said about the future of the web - a bunch of self-aggrandizing blowhards took it over - it's dead. By the time those guys get around to making a standard the interwebs will be ruled by App Stores. Nobody needs the World Wide Web anyways - buy 1/2 dozen apps that meet your needs and you're done. For the price of 1/2 dozen apps you can leave the world of clunky, slow, muddled interfaces behind. Seriously, you'll be on your 5th tablet with all the functionality you'll ever need when a headline pops up declaring the HMTL 5 standards finalized. You'll be like: What's HTML?

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        Weep, weep, weep...this is the same way things were in C development on DOS before the ANSI C Standard was finalized. We used the preprocessor to manage files so that the appropriate code would get compiled for the appropriate platform. And if I was satisfied being an end user, I wouldn't be here. ;P

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        • S Super Lloyd

          At work there is a big project in Javascript, there is a project leader manager who swear by javascript and the evilness of IE and Silverlight. That Silverlight is dead and useless and Javascript is the future and so powerful. Mm.... For that matter the web is populated by javasript biggot who think Javascript rule the world, it is announced, all other technology are going to die, don't they realize the power of HTML5? I guess I'm a .NET biggot (although I would love WinRT/C++ if it could write normal desktop app (as opposed to "immersive app" only)), but this blind javascript madness is irking me!

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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          KP Lee
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          Super Lloyd wrote:

          My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

          You sound like someone who helped develop SQL Server :) Don't hate something because someone else forces you to use it. And that advice sounds really hollow when I remember a project where I was forced to write it in (yuck) COBOL. :laugh: The huge advantage of JavaScript is that it runs on the client and doesn't tax your server. Then you have AJAX which turns it around and taxes your server anyway.

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          • C cpkilekofp

            I thought MS had announced the impending scheduled death of Silverlight?

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            Super Lloyd
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            Did you forget the joke icon? Or didn't you get the memo about the impeding release of Silverlight 5?

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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            • B BubingaMan

              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              you can

              Actually, no. You cannot. WinRT is only available for metro applications, not for desktop applications. On the desktop, nothing changes. You are still in win32 hell.

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              BubingaMan wrote:

              WinRT is only available for metro applications, not for desktop applications

              That is absolutely wrong. WinRT is *not*, I repeat, *not* a Metro-specific technology. You *can* use WinRT on the desktop.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                BubingaMan wrote:

                WinRT is only available for metro applications, not for desktop applications

                That is absolutely wrong. WinRT is *not*, I repeat, *not* a Metro-specific technology. You *can* use WinRT on the desktop.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                BubingaMan
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                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                WinRT is *not*, I repeat, *not* a Metro-specific technology. You *can* use WinRT on the desktop.

                Not according to microsoft: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-AU/toolsforwinapps/thread/e09417fa-038d-4f0d-ad4d-8ee73498fd2a[^] And there's plenty of other posts just like it. Any API that includes or depends on metro stuff (which is true for the vast majority of winRT) will simply not work when called from a desktop application. And the ones that DO work are greatly discouraged to use from the desktop because it's not designed to be used in that way. Future updates will most certainly not consider compatability of desktop applications using winRT. So, the few that you CAN use, you will be using them "at your own risk". It's not 'best practice' and it's simply not designed to be used that way.

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