Riddle Me This: iPhone vs iPod Touch
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Hey, rep-whore, you could just have edited your original reply rather than reply to your own post.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Hey, rep-whore, you could just have edited your original reply rather than reply to your own post.
Yeah that 1 point really helped. ;P
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Nish, do you know if there is a decent GPS app (tom tom) for the WP7, most of them seem to be for the fanboys only.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
I haven't used any (or looked for one). I prefer to use a standard GPS device rather than use it through a phone. On the rare occasions that I did not have a GPS, I just used the phone's map software rather than try the phone's GPS software.
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I may actually consider that. For one, I imagine it would be easier for me to develop apps on a WP7 phone. Do you happen to know if there is a WP7 phone with: email, video camera, Facebook, Bank of America app, Pandora, web browser, TODO list or notes, maps, 3G/wifi/bluetooth connectivity, a touch screen, and a US carrier with a decent data plan? I'd say those are my most used features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
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AspDotNetDev wrote:
email, video camera, Facebook, Bank of America app, Pandora, web browser, TODO list or notes, maps, 3G/wifi/bluetooth connectivity, a touch screen, and a US carrier with a decent data plan?
All WP7 apps run across all WP7 devices. So you don't have to pick a specific phone model for using a specific app. I believe 720p HD video is a requirement for a device to support WP7. I have a Samsung Focus on AT&T. I haven't used other providers in years so I am not sure how good the others are, but I find AT&T rates to be decent and their service is alright too unless you drive into the deep country sides (you'll usually find yourself out of 3G coverage).
Regards, Nish
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The unsubsidized 32GB iPhone 4S costs $750, but the 32GB iPod Touch (can't be subsidized) costs $300. So, you're paying $450 for a phone without any extra features? :confused: :wtf: Is it just me, or is Apple royally screwing us? :((
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
The iPhone has double RAM than the iPod Touch, has a digital compass and a GPS, Oleophobic screen coating, larger battery, a way better camera + LED. Plus the iPhone 4S is equipped with the new A5 chip, while the iPod touch has the A4 chip.
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I may actually consider that. For one, I imagine it would be easier for me to develop apps on a WP7 phone. Do you happen to know if there is a WP7 phone with: email, video camera, Facebook, Bank of America app, Pandora, web browser, TODO list or notes, maps, 3G/wifi/bluetooth connectivity, a touch screen, and a US carrier with a decent data plan? I'd say those are my most used features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
Sounds like you want a SPOF phone, not WP7.
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That's about enough for me to boycott Apple. :mad:
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
I have so many reasons to boycott Apple, that's just another one on the bunch.
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The unsubsidized 32GB iPhone 4S costs $750, but the 32GB iPod Touch (can't be subsidized) costs $300. So, you're paying $450 for a phone without any extra features? :confused: :wtf: Is it just me, or is Apple royally screwing us? :((
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
Despite not liking, not knowing deeply and not buying anything from apple I thinking you may be scratching only the surface when we talk about hardware. Have you verified if the processors are the same? As far as I know, the 4S got some hardware improvement, including the processor. That might justify some cash difference. So basically iPhone Price = iPod Touch + Phone Antenna + Some Hardware improvement + Lot of Hype I bet this urge that people have to always own the latest and shiniest of the shiniest allows apple to put that price on the phone.
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson
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Despite not liking, not knowing deeply and not buying anything from apple I thinking you may be scratching only the surface when we talk about hardware. Have you verified if the processors are the same? As far as I know, the 4S got some hardware improvement, including the processor. That might justify some cash difference. So basically iPhone Price = iPod Touch + Phone Antenna + Some Hardware improvement + Lot of Hype I bet this urge that people have to always own the latest and shiniest of the shiniest allows apple to put that price on the phone.
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I think you're asking the wrong question. I don't care about the processor. What applications can the iphone run which the ipod can't? What can you do with the iphone that you can't do with the ipod? Do these differences justify the price difference?
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AspDotNetDev wrote:
or is Apple royally screwing us
If you are just realising that then I have a great bridge I would like to sell you. Mate when you can't get a new battery without replacing the entire phone it should be bloody obvious you are being ripped off. Talk about built in obsolescence.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
hen you can't get a new battery without replacing the entire phone it should be bloody obvious you are being ripped off. Talk about built in obsolescence.
Can't fault you there. Glad I got rid of my iPhone and got an Android phone instead.
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Despite not liking, not knowing deeply and not buying anything from apple I thinking you may be scratching only the surface when we talk about hardware. Have you verified if the processors are the same? As far as I know, the 4S got some hardware improvement, including the processor. That might justify some cash difference. So basically iPhone Price = iPod Touch + Phone Antenna + Some Hardware improvement + Lot of Hype I bet this urge that people have to always own the latest and shiniest of the shiniest allows apple to put that price on the phone.
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson
It may use hardware closer to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 currently starts at $550 for the 8GB version. Can't seem to find a 32GB version.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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The iPhone has double RAM than the iPod Touch, has a digital compass and a GPS, Oleophobic screen coating, larger battery, a way better camera + LED. Plus the iPhone 4S is equipped with the new A5 chip, while the iPod touch has the A4 chip.
How about when you compare that to the iPhone 4 (rather than the iPhone 4S)? The iPhone 4 is still stupidly expensive.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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I put it down to the 'Emperors New Clothes[^]' syndrome.
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Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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How about when you compare that to the iPhone 4 (rather than the iPhone 4S)? The iPhone 4 is still stupidly expensive.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
The iPhone4S is an iPhone4 with an A5 chip (and two radio modems). All the other specs that I mentioned are the same for the 4 and the 4S!
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Sounds like you want a SPOF phone, not WP7.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I find it very efficient to keep all my eggs in one basket. :)
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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The iPhone4S is an iPhone4 with an A5 chip (and two radio modems). All the other specs that I mentioned are the same for the 4 and the 4S!
Not true. For example, the camera is different.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Not true. For example, the camera is different.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
sorry, and that. but still u r comparin the ipod with the iphone, the iphone 4 and 4S have a lot more features than the ipod, which explains the price difference.
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sorry, and that. but still u r comparin the ipod with the iphone, the iphone 4 and 4S have a lot more features than the ipod, which explains the price difference.
I wouldn't say is has a lot more features, if we compare the iPhone 4 to the latest iPod Touch. Here are the ones I now know of: compass, GPS, oleophobic screen coating, phone network connectivity. The 8GB iPhone 4 is currently $550. The 8GB iPod Touch is $200. That's a $350 price increase, or nearly 3x the cost (actually, 2.75x). All for those 4 features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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I wouldn't say is has a lot more features, if we compare the iPhone 4 to the latest iPod Touch. Here are the ones I now know of: compass, GPS, oleophobic screen coating, phone network connectivity. The 8GB iPhone 4 is currently $550. The 8GB iPod Touch is $200. That's a $350 price increase, or nearly 3x the cost (actually, 2.75x). All for those 4 features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
+camera, LED, dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery, a harder to manufacture design, wall socket power adaptor, earphones with mic... everything adds up
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+camera, LED, dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery, a harder to manufacture design, wall socket power adaptor, earphones with mic... everything adds up
elie_khoury wrote:
camera
One of the cameras is better. The iPod Touch and iPhone 4 can take the same type of video, but the iPhone 4 can take 5 megapixel pictures, while the iPod Touch can take less than 1 megapixel pictures.
elie_khoury wrote:
dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery
I wasn't aware of either of those, which do add some value.
elie_khoury wrote:
wall socket power adaptor
They also overcharge for that. I bought one for about $10.
elie_khoury wrote:
earphones with mic
Perhaps an extra $5. I tried to get the exact cost of parts for both devices, but all I came up with was $188 for the iPhone 4 (that was last year though, and prices have surely gone down). Let me know if you can find an estimate of the parts for the iPod Touch 4G and perhaps we can do a sensible comparison. With the profit margin they are making on the iPhone and my guess for what it costs to make the iPod Touch (similar to the iPhone I'd say), they are really setting their price based on demand rather than cost to them. Thankfully, for me, other companies are finally coming up with products that are coming somewhat near what Apple is offering, so I can take my business elsewhere.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.