Words. Fail. Me.

Roger Wright

I suspect option 2 appears attractive to the (l)user...

Will Rogers never met me.

Slacker007

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

Go on, I dare you all: which option does the client think is best?

The one that leaves you walking funny?

Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

Chris Maunder

Surely this should be:

+---------+ +-------------+ +-------------+
| Source |---->| Bloat Box |---->| Slow Router |
+---------+ +-------------+ +-------------+
|
v
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
@ The Cloud @
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
|
v
+-------------+ +-------------+
| Slow Router |---->| Destination |
+-------------+ +-------------+

cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

Nagy Vilmos

This is data we need to get into the App quickly; it is so stupid. We're trying to make them see sense, the cost to them is actually the same which ever way we go, but with the direct feed, they need to take in another line from the supplier, with the FUBAR version we'll have to upgrade links between data centres.

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

Nagy Vilmos

Not far off it. I think the slow router takes the messages out to lunch first before forwarding anything.

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

Henry Minute

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

out to lunch

One of your designs then?

Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

Nagy Vilmos

You utter, utter, utter, utter b'tard! :mad: Have +5

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

clientSurfer

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

ASCII

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

which option does the client think is best?

binary? :-D

"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011

Nagy Vilmos

Stop being clever, or I'll troll kick you back to 2011!

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

clientSurfer

Oh goody!!! Can it please be squarely between the nadgers??!!!

"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011

Espen Harlinn

Hey Nagy, this is a bit scary - I had a similar meeting yeasterday ...

+-------------+ +--------------+ +-------------+
| Source |---->| WebSphere MQ |---->| Destination |
+-------------+ +--------------+ +-------------+

vs

+-------------+ +-------------+ +--------------+ +-------------+ +-------------+
| Source |---->| Rabbit MQ |---->| WebSphere MQ |---->| Rabbit MQ |---->| Destination |
+-------------+ +-------------+ +--------------+ +-------------+ +-------------+

The WebSphere MQ can be reached from both the source and the destination ... and the guys arguing for the second approach are developers too. So yeah, I can understand your frustration :doh:

Espen Harlinn Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services

Rajesh R Subramanian

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

I think the slow router takes the messages out to lunch first before forwarding anything.

:laugh:

"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

Corporal Agarn

Have a five. Had soda go out the nose on that one. Good thing no one is in the office at this time (late lunches).

Michael Bergman

I dunno. What's in the Bloat Box?

m.bergman

For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

Jorgen Andersson

:laugh:

Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

clientSurfer

Ouch. Well thanks and sorry about your nose...

"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011

Jorgen Andersson

What arguments do they have?

Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

Luc Pattyn

If the first option were the better one, it ought to be more expensive. Hence... :)

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Espen Harlinn

I'll have to maintain a working relationship with these people - so I hope you'll understand that I can't go into specifics ;)

Espen Harlinn Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services

Nagy Vilmos

The big issue is the redundancy / disaster recovery. With the fucked-up solution they need to have upgraded lines between every frakin point on the network to ensure the data gets through. with the direct approach we can simply put in two cross connects - one at each site - and the supplier deals with the rest. Simples. The client doesn't pay anymore for having the data fed into two places, so it seems to me a no-brainer. Unfortunately, the PM on their side has no brain.

Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett