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  • A AndyInUK

    Sorry, i don't have admin rights to move LAMP forum to the lounge. ;P

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Doesn't stop you telling your LAMP friends about the forum though. Seriously, don't complain about it - do something about it.

    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      Agh! Don't: just had to use php: what a festering pile of doggy-doo-doo. Like Asp Classic (or Asp-for-ladies as we used to call it) only less so. Still, it is pretty quick to get to grips with. Never using it again. :)

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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      AndyInUK
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      That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Doesn't stop you telling your LAMP friends about the forum though. Seriously, don't complain about it - do something about it.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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        AndyInUK
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        ok big lad! I will try to do something about it. peace out!

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        • A AndyInUK

          That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.

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          Lost User
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          AndyInUK wrote:

          php can do and a lot faster

          Faster than my grandmother perhaps, and just as type-safe. :)

          At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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          • A AndyInUK

            That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.

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            AspDotNetDev
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            AndyInUK wrote:

            That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php

            Only once you know more about PHP that statement considered completely correct and ignorance-free. :-D

            AndyInUK wrote:

            php can do and a lot faster

            I doubt it. And let's not forget to factor in speed in terms of developer productivity.

            AndyInUK wrote:

            on top of it it's all open source

            So is ASP.NET MVC. And you can view all the source for .Net (you can even interact with it in the debugger). And let's not forget Mono (cross platform open source .Net) and MonoDevelop (like Visual Studio, but open source and free).

            AndyInUK wrote:

            php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework

            Is it also strongly typed?

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              AndyInUK wrote:

              That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php

              Only once you know more about PHP that statement considered completely correct and ignorance-free. :-D

              AndyInUK wrote:

              php can do and a lot faster

              I doubt it. And let's not forget to factor in speed in terms of developer productivity.

              AndyInUK wrote:

              on top of it it's all open source

              So is ASP.NET MVC. And you can view all the source for .Net (you can even interact with it in the debugger). And let's not forget Mono (cross platform open source .Net) and MonoDevelop (like Visual Studio, but open source and free).

              AndyInUK wrote:

              php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework

              Is it also strongly typed?

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              I use to say exactly same as you before I had any experience with php but forceful working on php changed my mindset. So I would suggest you to learn advance php and am sure you will love it. Once again, I have developed on .NET more than i have developed on php and i still like .net but i also like php.. rant over.. peace out

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                AndyInUK wrote:

                php can do and a lot faster

                Faster than my grandmother perhaps, and just as type-safe. :)

                At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                AndyInUK
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                and am assuming you are referring asp.net as your grandmother here? ;P

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                • A AndyInUK

                  I use to say exactly same as you before I had any experience with php but forceful working on php changed my mindset. So I would suggest you to learn advance php and am sure you will love it. Once again, I have developed on .NET more than i have developed on php and i still like .net but i also like php.. rant over.. peace out

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                  It seems to me that ASP.NET is faster. There are common reasons people believe PHP to be faster. For one, IIS allows you to unload a web application from memory when it has become idle. This increases the time it takes to hit a website when it must awake from an idle state. While completely configurable, people don't often change this setting. Also, ASP.NET limits the number of threads than can be used to process incoming requests. However, requests can be made to be asynchronous. Of course, most websites do not require this, so stress test can overlook the fact that this is possible. ASP.NET also compiles the code that runs, which one would think would increase the perception that ASP.NET is faster. However, there are many ways to compile ASP.NET and it is up to the developer to choose among them. One of them requires that each page be compiled whenever it is hit after certain changes (e.g., a web.config change). There are ways to avoid this, but again this is not something that many people do (and on high traffic sites, there is hardly reason to). Usually, though, the performance of the server-side language isn't the biggest concern. Usually it's things like SQL or page weight (i.e., download size). And more of a concern than that is developer productivity, which is largely dependent on features and ease of use of the language/framework/IDE, and availability of information about those areas.

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  • A AndyInUK

                    and am assuming you are referring asp.net as your grandmother here? ;P

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                    Lost User
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                    How about C64 BASIC? That would be a fair comparison... :)

                    At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Agh! Don't: just had to use php: what a festering pile of doggy-doo-doo. Like Asp Classic (or Asp-for-ladies as we used to call it) only less so. Still, it is pretty quick to get to grips with. Never using it again. :)

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      BobJanova
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                      While PHP has several issues that make it a somewhat amateurish language, it is really not in the same league of awfulness as trying to use ASP or ASP.net (non-MVC). I use PHP for my spare time web development, because it's really easy to find hosts that give you PHP/mySQL and you don't need any expensive tools, and it is quite easy to work with.

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