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    L Viljoen
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    OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

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      OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

      Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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      Lost User
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      Do you ever say anything interesting enough for someone to bother? Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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        Do you ever say anything interesting enough for someone to bother? Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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        L Viljoen
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        Well you just did.

        Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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          OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

          Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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          Roger Wright
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          It's nothing to worry about, since any device, given enough "insider" information can be hacked. What you should have done is take notes; that could be a handy thing to know how to do! :-D

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            Well you just did.

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            You do know that if I read something you have posted on the internet I have not hacked you?

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              OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

              Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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              RJOberg
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              Tell your boss that they most likely had a rooted device where they had admin permissions and the same has been done with Apple devices. Then get on with your life.

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                OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

                Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                I laugh at this sort of thing because the real tragedy of these devices isn't that they can be hacked, but rather, they are so outright easy to steal. For some reason nobody seems to care that it is often a violation of federal, state, and institutional law to carry around other people's personal data this way. A doctor can now carry around hundreds of people's patient history on an iPad and accidently leave it in the cafeteria. That is a much bigger threat then 'hacking'.

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                  OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

                  Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                  David Crow
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                  Chona1171 wrote:

                  My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

                  Do you routinely leave your phone laying around for others to pilfer through? If not, then it makes no difference what its hackability is.

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                    Do you ever say anything interesting enough for someone to bother? Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                    I think someone misinterpreted as an attack on the OP as it can be read two ways. When I first read it I took it that way and thought it was a bit out of character for you, so read it again, it was only the second time that it read how you intended it to..

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                      I laugh at this sort of thing because the real tragedy of these devices isn't that they can be hacked, but rather, they are so outright easy to steal. For some reason nobody seems to care that it is often a violation of federal, state, and institutional law to carry around other people's personal data this way. A doctor can now carry around hundreds of people's patient history on an iPad and accidently leave it in the cafeteria. That is a much bigger threat then 'hacking'.

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                      MehGerbil wrote:

                      A doctor can now carry around hundreds of people's patient history on an iPad and accidently leave it in the cafeteria.

                      Where I used to work had tablet PCs for the docs, the key was NEVER EVER to store patient data on the tablet. EVER! You had to have a wifi connection, which went through a secure VPN, and pulled the information up in a session. As soon as you locked the PC or closed the VPN, all the info was supposedly wiped. I was still in that sector when the new HIPAA laws were being passed about 4 years ago. The threat of jailtime and fines for not only the organization but for the individual programmers if there was a breach, even if unintentional was a bit of a big stick approach.

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                        OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

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                        (mildly conspiratorial :suss:) If you are a "nobody" don't be paranoid. If you are someone of some importance, basic security like turning off the cell phone or even removing the battery from the device will prevent potential snooping from 3rd party when in a meeting. If truly paranoid, use different devices when traveling abroad that does not contain sensitive information (personal or business related). This is an old link : taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool[^]

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                          OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

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                          If you are going to get paranoid about that, then start looking for the transmitters he planted while demonstrating how easy it was...

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                            OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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                              Do you ever say anything interesting enough for someone to bother? Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                              ChrisElston wrote:

                              Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                              Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

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                                Tell your boss that they most likely had a rooted device where they had admin permissions and the same has been done with Apple devices. Then get on with your life.

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                                That is most likely my thought on the matter , becuase apparently the presenter made emphasis this is a fully updated version of ICS , then started his hack via a laptop connected on the same wireless network . but I mean without root access of something giving him some manner of admin privelages on the device I simply do not see a way you can hack any device be it android or IOS.

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                                  ChrisElston wrote:

                                  Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                                  Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

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                                  It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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                                    It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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                                    Ah cos we was refering to my posts. so I assumed that it was about my posts on CP.

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                                      It wasn't a personal attack, he was merely asking if your phone calls were interesting enough for someone to bother to go to the effort of hacking them. I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

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                                      TPFKAPB wrote:

                                      I know mine aren't, unless you want to hear my Missus moaning about what I should/shouldn't have done.

                                      At least mine is curtious enough to keep those conversationss in the bedroom.

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                                        OK maybe i will be putting the spark on a debate that will end up in total genocide between android and iphone users but here goes. My boss went to a conference the other day where someone had a presentation of how easy it is to hack a Android device at the end of it they turned the device into a mic that transmitted any conversation in the room to their laptop. My question is shoudl i have sleepless nights over my samsung galaxy s2 or is this merely some apple propeganda ?

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                                        I've heard they Electrocuted an elephant[^] with a galaxy s2.

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                                          For what it is worth, a friend of mine works at a software security company and he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

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                                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                          thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market.

                                          I agree, this is beginning to look like a distinct possibility. /ravi

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