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  • L lewax00

    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

    he thinks Android will replace desktop Windows as their largest market

    Based on what exactly? They aren't even in that market, nor to my knowledge have they announced plans to move into that market. Seems like his claim is based on pure guessing to me...

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced this seems to be knee jerk reaction rather than reading what is actually written

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Ah yes. I did miss that point. I would still doubt it though. Mobile devices are so sandboxed unless the user roots it there is little concern. And those users are very limited, and tend to know what they are doing.

      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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        Ah yes. I did miss that point. I would still doubt it though. Mobile devices are so sandboxed unless the user roots it there is little concern. And those users are very limited, and tend to know what they are doing.

        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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        But security companies like to sell products and there are probably more privately owned phones than PCs so a bigger potential market - especially if they can drum up some scare stories

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

          I think you missed the point, he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced this seems to be knee jerk reaction rather than reading what is actually written

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          lewax00
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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

          he is saying that android will be "THE SECURITY COMPANIES" biggest market not that Windows will be replaced

          Oh, that makes more sense. I misinterpreted it as Android will replace Windows on desktops, and there doesn't seem to be any basis to think that for that at the moment.

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            lewax00 wrote:

            Based on what exactly?

            Based on a lot of activity in this area.  Bluestacks[^] and AMD[^] are closely involved in developing this technology.  Nobody's suggesting that every Microsoft shop is going to turn to desktop Android, but I think it's a distinct possibility that desktop Android could find its way into the marketplace. /ravi

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            That's still not Android, that's just the apps. That's just emulation, not even close a useable desktop operating system. And honestly Android's model doesn't make much sense on a desktop, it's designed for low power, low resource devices. It's great on a phone, but it would be really annoying if your desktop OS started doing things closing programs you're running to free up memory without asking you, or only allow one running foreground program at a time.

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            • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

              But security companies like to sell products and there are probably more privately owned phones than PCs so a bigger potential market - especially if they can drum up some scare stories

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

              so a bigger potential market

              Bigger potential market does not mean it will surpass the already in place market that exists. Its like pennies on the dollar in comparison. In a large enterprise system there are more PCs than people. This will not change. In addition they buy very large licensing to ensure they can continually expand. Rarely (if ever) does an enterprise risk going without security software. However, very often individuals let their PCs go with out security software. So what makes you think that they will buy security software for their phone? While I am sure some will, they will likely be a minority. There is no way that the market will surpass that of the Windows market.

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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              • L L Viljoen

                ChrisElston wrote:

                Edit: Reported as spam or abusive? Really?

                Read the rules and leave your personal attacks at home

                Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                Remind me never to answer any question you ask again if that's how you respond to answers.

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                  Remind me never to answer any question you ask again if that's how you respond to answers.

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                  L Viljoen
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                  Dude I really apologize for reporting, I read the post and I thought you where taking a cheap-shot at me, in CP i had to deal with more than a fair share of condescending jerks and unfortunately I took a nip at the wrong person. I mean if you read ur post it can be interpreted in more than 1 way really Again I apologise and next time i will know better. On a completely unrelated question , is there a way I can revoke my report ?

                  Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                    Dude I really apologize for reporting, I read the post and I thought you where taking a cheap-shot at me, in CP i had to deal with more than a fair share of condescending jerks and unfortunately I took a nip at the wrong person. I mean if you read ur post it can be interpreted in more than 1 way really Again I apologise and next time i will know better. On a completely unrelated question , is there a way I can revoke my report ?

                    Chona1171 Web Developer (C#), Silverlight

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                    I shouldn't worry about it, I don't think it does anything unless a load more people report it and then it just disappears. I appreciate your apology, I know my casual and irreverent manner doesn't always work well over the internet, especially when crossing national borders.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                      so a bigger potential market

                      Bigger potential market does not mean it will surpass the already in place market that exists. Its like pennies on the dollar in comparison. In a large enterprise system there are more PCs than people. This will not change. In addition they buy very large licensing to ensure they can continually expand. Rarely (if ever) does an enterprise risk going without security software. However, very often individuals let their PCs go with out security software. So what makes you think that they will buy security software for their phone? While I am sure some will, they will likely be a minority. There is no way that the market will surpass that of the Windows market.

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      Valid points, however that same enterprise enviroment also includes mobiles and are as likely to treat these mobile computing devices in the same manner. all the security companies are looking at the handheld market as a growth area (desktop/server/laptop market is pretty static) whilst I do not claim that it will overtake windows I certainly would not be supprised if it did it is not just the imerging market of mobiles, windows is under threat from other OS's and cloud services in addition the OP does not state the company being refered to, if this is one of the smaller firms then it can well be the case that between the growth of android and the ever pressing pressure of the big players this particular company may find it being the case

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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