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BBC Micro V2.0?

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  • L Lost User

    BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...

    MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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    Richard Andrew x64
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    I learned about the BBC Micro from that article. Looks like it was a nifty machine! BBC Micro[^]

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      I learned about the BBC Micro from that article. Looks like it was a nifty machine! BBC Micro[^]

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      It certainly was! From it grew the Archimedes and the ARM chips which dominate the mobile market today. For a bit of funb, you can get a BBC emulator here[^] then download my game, PooperPig here[^] Then marvel over how poor games were back then! (PooperPig was No. 1 in the Ceefax Download Charts)

      MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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      • L Lost User

        BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...

        MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        Mark_Wallace
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        _Maxxx_ wrote:

        maybe a BBC-Pad

        Given that everyone in the BBC buildings considers himself to be an artist (how correct they are in their thinking is not even worth the effort of discussing), and that 90% of them are gay, which hardware do you think they'll be promoting?

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          I learned about the BBC Micro from that article. Looks like it was a nifty machine! BBC Micro[^]

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          GuyThiebaut
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          Yes, it felt like it was way ahead of the field in its day(even ahead of the speccy in my opinionated opinion ) - I learnt to program Pascal on it and it was a solid piece of kit.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            _Maxxx_ wrote:

            maybe a BBC-Pad

            Given that everyone in the BBC buildings considers himself to be an artist (how correct they are in their thinking is not even worth the effort of discussing), and that 90% of them are gay, which hardware do you think they'll be promoting?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Lost User
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            Mark_Wallace wrote:

            90% of them are gay, which hardware

            Feeling a little homophobic todat?

            MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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            • L Lost User

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              90% of them are gay, which hardware

              Feeling a little homophobic todat?

              MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                maybe a BBC-Pad

                Given that everyone in the BBC buildings considers himself to be an artist (how correct they are in their thinking is not even worth the effort of discussing), and that 90% of them are gay, which hardware do you think they'll be promoting?

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Simon ORiordan from UK
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                i-Don't know. i-Really couldn't say. :laugh:

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                • L Lost User

                  BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...

                  MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                  NormDroid
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                  BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming that's our TV license money goes. BBC Micro was a excellent machine for the time, albeit expensive.

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Peer reviewed study, please - or it's just your unsubstantiated opinion. ;P On a more serious note - as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty. Please try to think about the effect your comments may have on those who are not part of the same demographic as yourself. Some LGBT people are very vulnerable - and thoughtless remarks really don't help. :rose:

                    Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                      Peer reviewed study, please - or it's just your unsubstantiated opinion. ;P On a more serious note - as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty. Please try to think about the effect your comments may have on those who are not part of the same demographic as yourself. Some LGBT people are very vulnerable - and thoughtless remarks really don't help. :rose:

                      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                      Peer reviewed study, please

                      As long as I don't have to include pictures... X|

                      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                      as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty

                      Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that. What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people. If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • N NormDroid

                        BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming that's our TV license money goes. BBC Micro was a excellent machine for the time, albeit expensive.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        NormDroid wrote:

                        BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming

                        Absolute nonsense. Part of the remit of the BBC is to provide educational programmes. How do you think so many people got into programming back in the 80s? It was through the excellent "Me and My Micro" series. I'd rather they spent my fee educating people.

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                        • L Lost User

                          It certainly was! From it grew the Archimedes and the ARM chips which dominate the mobile market today. For a bit of funb, you can get a BBC emulator here[^] then download my game, PooperPig here[^] Then marvel over how poor games were back then! (PooperPig was No. 1 in the Ceefax Download Charts)

                          MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                          glennPattonPub
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                          Ceefax Download? I remember there being some short listings on Ceefax and could remember our teacher (?) hooking up a BBC to a Ceefax tv, don't remember a modem being used...my class mates now don't remember this, was it possible?

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                          • N NormDroid

                            BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming that's our TV license money goes. BBC Micro was a excellent machine for the time, albeit expensive.

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                            I would definitely prefer my TV license money to be spent on educational projects rather than all that stupid chav shows.

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                              Peer reviewed study, please

                              As long as I don't have to include pictures... X|

                              Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                              as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty

                              Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that. What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people. If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              No special treatment is required - just a little care and thought. Thoughtless remarks can cause unnecessarily harm to vulnerable (who by definition are likely to have "have over-heightened sensibilities" through no fault of their own). Worse, they influence others to do likewise. Please at least try to be more thoughtful.

                              Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                Ceefax Download? I remember there being some short listings on Ceefax and could remember our teacher (?) hooking up a BBC to a Ceefax tv, don't remember a modem being used...my class mates now don't remember this, was it possible?

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                                Lost User
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                                Yep - you needed an adapter [^] though (although I don't recall having one!)

                                MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                • M Mark_Wallace

                                  Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?

                                  Not at all. And they weren't facts.

                                  MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                    Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?

                                    Not at all. And they weren't facts.

                                    MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    And they weren't facts.

                                    You've never been to Shepherd's Bush, then?

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                      And they weren't facts.

                                      You've never been to Shepherd's Bush, then?

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Lost User
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                                      As it happens, yes I have. As it also happens, I think the BBC aren't there any more anyway. I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be. But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences. I really don't care if you shag men, women or donkeys, but (unless you really are 14 years old) feel you should perhaps grow up and act a little more maturely.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        As it happens, yes I have. As it also happens, I think the BBC aren't there any more anyway. I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be. But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences. I really don't care if you shag men, women or donkeys, but (unless you really are 14 years old) feel you should perhaps grow up and act a little more maturely.

                                        MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be.

                                        Indeed. 90%. Are you paying attention, or what?

                                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences.

                                        You don't have to be particularly observant to recognise that you're the odd man out.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Yep - you needed an adapter [^] though (although I don't recall having one!)

                                          MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                          glennPattonPub
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                                          So I do remember correctly... :omg:

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