To like or dislike C Sharp
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
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Before I used C#, I used C and then C++ for a very long time. When I moved to C#, it took a lot of time to adjust to the way it works, but once I did, I found that it was a great language to use. If you want to be bigoted and only look for reasons to dislike languages, then you are never going to grow as a developer. If you take the time to try and understand the way that different languages work, you will grow as a developer. Currently, I'm looking into Haskell - it's a huge mind-shift for me, and I'm finding that it's opening up new ways of thinking for developing in other languages just because of that mind-shift.
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Downsides of C#: 1. The generics in C# are far from as powerful and versatile as the templates in C++. 2. The garbage collection (even with IDisposable and "using") means RAII can't be used effectively in C#. Apart from that, I quite like the language. In my current role, the C++:C# split is about 60:40, and I'm fine with that. I wouldn't consider using C++ for a GUI application, while C# is great for that.
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I like it. If you stop thinking "cut down C++" and consider it as a separate language in it's own right, it is very good - in some ways a lot better than C++ in that it is a lot harder to write impenetrable cr@p in C# than it is in C++. If you want a class that is only available to Class B, then declare it as private and part of the B Class:
public class B
{
private class A
{
...
}
A a = new A();
}Yes i know about that way but the bosses above said that the file is getting too large for the functions and they have to be moved to a new class and file :/ because it is getting too complicated :/
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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I'm with Richard on this one, it's development tool, learn it, use it, get paid for it! I don't like web development (specifically javascript) but I still find it interesting. You're only bitching because you are being stuffed into a new syntax, welcome to my world!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
You're only bitching because you are being stuffed into a new syntax, welcome to my world!
Nah its not that. For example i find F# very interesting and fun. I think that i dislike C# because it is so much as c++ but its not the same thing.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Yes i know about that way but the bosses above said that the file is getting too large for the functions and they have to be moved to a new class and file :/ because it is getting too complicated :/
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
yes^4 :-) (all upvoted) 'g'
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You can always put your internal classes into a separate source file using partial classes
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Precisely!
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Actually, C++ is the best language ever, so any other will look pale compared to it. /sits down and grabs pop-corn
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Actually, C++ is the best language ever, so any other will look pale compared to it. /sits down and grabs pop-corn
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Actually, C++ is the best language ever, so any other will look pale compared to it. /sits down and grabs pop-corn
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
The beauty of c++ is that it will never die. It doesn't stop growing. For example in the latest update c++ 11 we see something very interesting for strongly typed language, the type auto. After few years/decades/centuries(lets hope) M$ will stop supporting .Net Platform and c# will die with it. C++ doesn't need any Platforms unlike c#
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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It's not delphi.
Burn the heretic!! :-D
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Rage wrote:
C++ is the best language ever
Sorry but that accolade will always go to C, as designed by the great K&R.
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
... which we all know, in the depth of our hearts, was a badly implemented BASIC compiler...
speramus in juniperus
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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At work i am working alone on the only remaining c++ project. But now new we started working on a new project in c#. So i am writing one of its projects (I pity my coworkers for working with me on the same project) and i was thinking "Oh i will make The class A private so it will be used only with the Class B and just use friend" but of course M$ had other ideas. Today was a good day i found another reason to dislike C Sharp. So i wonder what makes you people like or dislike C Sharp
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
I got into the whole C# vs. C++ with a previous company the end result was C++ will let you build the gallows and hang yourself, while C# will give you the gallows but makes it hard(er) to hang your self. I must admit not to being very fond of object orientation & classes (give me a struct any day!) My Two pennies worth any now back to stick a test rig together. :)
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Precisely!
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The beauty of c++ is that it will never die. It doesn't stop growing. For example in the latest update c++ 11 we see something very interesting for strongly typed language, the type auto. After few years/decades/centuries(lets hope) M$ will stop supporting .Net Platform and c# will die with it. C++ doesn't need any Platforms unlike c#
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Argonia wrote:
After few years/decades/centuries(lets hope) M$ will stop supporting .Net Platform and c# will die with it.
Why would C# die with it? It doesn't need to run on .NET - there is at least one alternative to the .NET framework, and C# is now producing code for iOS and Android as well.
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I like it. If you stop thinking "cut down C++" and consider it as a separate language in it's own right, it is very good - in some ways a lot better than C++ in that it is a lot harder to write impenetrable cr@p in C# than it is in C++. If you want a class that is only available to Class B, then declare it as private and part of the B Class:
public class B
{
private class A
{
...
}
A a = new A();
}OriginalGriff wrote:
it is a lot harder to write impenetrable cr@p in C# than it is in C++.
maybe, as long as you don't get near LINQ or anonymous functions.
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I like it. If you stop thinking "cut down C++" and consider it as a separate language in it's own right, it is very good - in some ways a lot better than C++ in that it is a lot harder to write impenetrable cr@p in C# than it is in C++. If you want a class that is only available to Class B, then declare it as private and part of the B Class:
public class B
{
private class A
{
...
}
A a = new A();
}Impenetrable? Humph. Anyway - not to start a debate, but don't you find something intrinsically wrong with your example? Class inside of class (inside of class (inside of class (inside of class (inside of class (inside of class . . . ??? I look at it this way C# is a good lure to get lifetime-rookies away from VB. But it hides what you're really doing. There's no distinction, visibly between a namespace or a class in terms of separation, for example. (in C++, we have ::, ., and -> vs. . the C#). It makes things easier and masks understanding. I also like the possibility of multiple inheritance without a cascade of derivations - not too often, but when I want it I want it) It's not so much cut-down as light. Per my VB->C# view, that's a good thing . . . as an intermediate step to the real thing.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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OriginalGriff wrote:
it is a lot harder to write impenetrable cr@p in C# than it is in C++.
maybe, as long as you don't get near LINQ or anonymous functions.
They can get a bit...difficult...but not as much as a carelessly written regex! :laugh:
