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  • E Eric Goedhart

    Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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    Marc Clifton
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    Eric Goedhart wrote:

    in the online editor

    I know I'm archaic, but I write all my articles in FrontPage and just paste the HTML into the online editor. At most, I use it to add "code" tags. Marc

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    • E Eric Goedhart

      Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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      Steve Wellens
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      I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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      • E Eric Goedhart

        Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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        DaveAuld
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        You could try the Offline Article editor written by one of the community. You can find it at the top of the list at Code Project Utilities (Member Contributions) FAQ[^]

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          You could try the Offline Article editor written by one of the community. You can find it at the top of the list at Code Project Utilities (Member Contributions) FAQ[^]

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          Eric Goedhart
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          H Dave, Thanks for the Link, I downloaded that Offline Editor and have a look at it :)

          With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            Eric Goedhart wrote:

            in the online editor

            I know I'm archaic, but I write all my articles in FrontPage and just paste the HTML into the online editor. At most, I use it to add "code" tags. Marc

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            Eric Goedhart
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            Hi Mark, FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            • S Steve Wellens

              I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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              Eric Goedhart
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              Hi, You know HTML5 has these <Article></Article> tags and so on... I think it would be faster to write an article that way :thumbsup:

              With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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              • E Eric Goedhart

                Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                OriginalGriff
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                If it's any consolation, I still spend more time swearing at the article editor (and repairing the damage it did) than I do writing the articles! I tend to switch it to HTML mode and use it as a "glorified notepad with a preview button" as it annoys me a lot less that way...:laugh:

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  If it's any consolation, I still spend more time swearing at the article editor (and repairing the damage it did) than I do writing the articles! I tend to switch it to HTML mode and use it as a "glorified notepad with a preview button" as it annoys me a lot less that way...:laugh:

                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                  Eric Goedhart
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                  Haha, I just moved recently to Amsterdam (an apartment block) and this afternoon when I was working with the Editor I was saying words my new neighbours perhaps wouldn't appreciate and possibly could hear ,when I realised that I made myself a cup of coffee and calmed down :) When the anger again came up I wrote this post :)

                  With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                  • E Eric Goedhart

                    Haha, I just moved recently to Amsterdam (an apartment block) and this afternoon when I was working with the Editor I was saying words my new neighbours perhaps wouldn't appreciate and possibly could hear ,when I realised that I made myself a cup of coffee and calmed down :) When the anger again came up I wrote this post :)

                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                      So, what you're saying is, in OG's house, no one can hear you bleat! :baaaa!: ;P


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                      • E Eric Goedhart

                        Hi Mark, FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Eric Goedhart wrote:

                        FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                        Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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                          I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Steve Wellens wrote:

                          I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

                          All my articles have been written entirely* with Notepad. * Excepting that the code wasn't written in Notepad; however, I do the < and > replacements in Notepad.

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                          • E Eric Goedhart

                            Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

                            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                            Jorgen Andersson
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                            I quickly gave up on the editor and started writing in VS instead. Just remember to exchange all < and > inside pre tags to < and < before you paste it into the editor.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                            • E Eric Goedhart

                              Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

                              With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                              I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                              How to ask a question

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                              • M Marco Bertschi

                                Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                                I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                                How to ask a question

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                                Eric Goedhart
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                                Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                • E Eric Goedhart

                                  Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                                  With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                                  I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                                  How to ask a question

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                                  • M Marco Bertschi

                                    Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                                    I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                                    How to ask a question

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                                    Eric Goedhart
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                                    Thank Marco I will if needed :thumbsup:

                                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                      Eric Goedhart wrote:

                                      FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                                      Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      It used to be the way people who did not know how to write HTML published static web pages. It would turn even simple pages into monstrosities with multiple tables embedded within tables. embedded within tables, ...

                                      FTFY X|

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                                      I still like it because I can watch the poor slob assigned to update the page struggle to do even simple things like add a control onto a page some graphic artist slapped together and passed off as a web page.

                                      FTFY :mad: <rant> Sorry I just had to vent. I used to do some contract work for a web video company* and they hired this graphic artist to put a new face on their web site. Needless to say she couldn't do simple things like add a video to the page, something essential for a web video company to have, so I would have to wade through tons of really crap code to find where I could add the control. </rant> * - I used to package completed videos and video players for their clients so they could drop them on their web pages with a minimum of effort. Did I mention that I hate Frontpage. :~

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                                      • E Eric Goedhart

                                        Hi, I wrote my article offline but in Open Office and exported it as a .Pdf , but perhaps its an idea to just send it by email :)

                                        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                        Lost User
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                                        You can download the skeleton article and build it offline using that, then submit as a Zip file. Takes a bit longer to get published but it tends to work.

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                                        • M Marco Bertschi

                                          Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                                          I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                                          How to ask a question

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                                          BotCar
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                                          That's good to know. I tried publishing a tip a while ago. I wrote the HTML offline and pasted it into the editor's HTML view. I noticed that if I switch to the WYSIWYG view, the code segments are all messed up. So I made sure to stick to the HTML view only, and used the preview functionality to ensure that it displayed correctly. Unfortunately, once the tip went through moderation, the formatting was messed up again.

                                          What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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