Hmmm, Do They really need that level of detail??
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Ah, that makes more sense. (Besides I was trying to make a funny about dental records, seems some did not see it that way though...)
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
I generally ask what levels of database and network security they employ, before providing such details. I recently had a very unpleasant exchange with an insurance company, which refused to pay out because I refused to supply them with private and confidential information which was completely irrelevant to the claim.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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chriselst wrote:
My wife
Thank you for referring to her that way instead of using "herself." I don't know why but it annoys me when people refer to their wife here as "herself." :mad: "Herself went to the store..." See, it is terrible. OK, I'm good. Carry on. :^)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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glennPattonPUB wrote:
I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise
Creepy... Why would they want your dental records? Are they planning on faking your death? Because that sounds like a completely different industry.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
I had exactly that issue with an agent ...
never heard from them again.Why do I think you're lying now?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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My other half works for a recruitment company - as far as I know, to be compliant with their own processes, the identification/right to work documentation has to be with them before contract signing (not certain by whom, end client or contractor). I'll get further confirmation tonight. Whoever is asking may, of course, have different internal processes - and you could also be paranoid ;) Regards, Stewart
Checked - all they need is 2 pieces of photo identity & 1 proof of address, or 1 photo identity & 2 proofs of address, before the contract starts. They are also supposed to meet the person face-to-face as well, but they have ways round that. This is for compliance with NHS supplier status requirements. Regards, Stewart
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That's actually a great idea. I wonder why it never occurred to me. :thumbsup:
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Bruce Springsteen and I have never met.
Does he know that? :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
He may need his dental records to be sure ;P
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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What about "She who must be obeyed"
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I generally ask what levels of database and network security they employ, before providing such details. I recently had a very unpleasant exchange with an insurance company, which refused to pay out because I refused to supply them with private and confidential information which was completely irrelevant to the claim.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Might do that...
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My wife has been working for her company for 8 years now, she has just had to provide proof she is allowed to work in the UK. She doesn't have a current passport (recently expired) so they said birth certificate and National Insurance card. I said they both prove that someone with her maiden name is allowed to work in the UK, but not her. They eventually worked this out too and accepted her expired passport as it was valid when she was employed by them.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
I seem to get away with showing my Freedom Pass (bus pass to non-Londoners). It has my name and a photo and an official looking number. Keeps them happy.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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glennPattonPUB wrote:
I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise
Creepy... Why would they want your dental records? Are they planning on faking your death? Because that sounds like a completely different industry.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Is it to get an idea of how wealthy your dentist has become at your expense?
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
If you are in the UK you can send your question to the Data Protection Authority. They (the UK DPA) will inform you if it is legal to ask for this information and whether they consider that it is needed. As far as I know, in the UK they only need your National Insurance number, name and address. In addition, they will also have had the same question from a few hundred other people and will have an answer ready for you.
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SortaCore wrote:
"The One Who Wields The Frying Pan"
of Doom!
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If you are in the UK you can send your question to the Data Protection Authority. They (the UK DPA) will inform you if it is legal to ask for this information and whether they consider that it is needed. As far as I know, in the UK they only need your National Insurance number, name and address. In addition, they will also have had the same question from a few hundred other people and will have an answer ready for you.
Thanks for that, I had forgotten the DPA...
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SortaCore wrote:
"The One Who Wields The Frying Pan"
of Doom!
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I prefer to use "the boss". It avoids all confusion. Note the lack of capitalisation which denotes the fact that Bruce Springsteen and I have never met.
I use "she who must be obeyed", but that dates me.
The difficult takes time, the impossible a little longer.
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I use "she who must be obeyed", but that dates me.
The difficult takes time, the impossible a little longer.
Only if it makes you feel Rumpoled.
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
All anyone usually needs to steal your ID is your date of birth - the rest they can easily find online. Ironically, the agents clearly want to ID you to make sure you are a legal immigrant or something, in which case a passport plus one other ID and proof of your address (e.g. a utility bill) ought to suffice. I certainly wouldn't send them dental records, as medical information is personal and you have a fundamental right to keep that private, besides it isn't a legal requirement to go to the dentist so why not simply tell them that you have never been?
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All anyone usually needs to steal your ID is your date of birth - the rest they can easily find online. Ironically, the agents clearly want to ID you to make sure you are a legal immigrant or something, in which case a passport plus one other ID and proof of your address (e.g. a utility bill) ought to suffice. I certainly wouldn't send them dental records, as medical information is personal and you have a fundamental right to keep that private, besides it isn't a legal requirement to go to the dentist so why not simply tell them that you have never been?
Well I agree, I only put the thing about dental records as a funny (don't worry have my coat). It's just that agency's seem to think they have a right to information that I find worrying. I mean do you ask clients for data that you don't need and expect them to pony up said data, I mean this agency wants details that don't need legally before they will submit my application...:~