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  • J Jorgen Andersson

    I thought "computer" was the keyword. :)

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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    You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

        Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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        KarstenK
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        The first "modern" computer build the german civil engineer Konrad Zuse. A memorial in Berlin (Germany) .

        Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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          Keith Barrow wrote:

          indigenous populations

          Even they came over on the B Ark.

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          Ian Shlasko
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          Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

            We can't say for sure if we didn't try. The result would be one of a kind cloth :D

            Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

              So, what's the definition of Computer?

              A machine that makes humans waste their lives arguing about semantics. ;)

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              • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                Mike Hankey
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                Interesting article. I've seen the one at the Smithsonian, it's pretty cool.

                New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription. I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.

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                • K KarstenK

                  The first "modern" computer build the german civil engineer Konrad Zuse. A memorial in Berlin (Germany) .

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                  den2k88
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                  Wow. Thanks for dissipating some of my ignorance :)

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    I don't know! Google defines it as: "an electronic device which is capable of receiving information (data) in a particular form and of performing a sequence of operations in accordance with a predetermined but variable set of procedural instructions (program) to produce a result in the form of information or signals." But Wiki says: "A computer is a general purpose device that can be programmed to carry out a set of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. Since a sequence of operations can be readily changed, the computer can solve more than one kind of problem." And I have to say that the google definition is closer to my ideal! But...the "electronic" bit would exclude the Jacquard Loom - and also the Babbage Difference Engine. Removing that would remove Ada Lovelace from the role of "first programmer" and I'm pretty sure she deserves that title! So my feeling is that the Google definition (sans one word) fits a computer well - and also the loom. You have to remember that all out modern computers are based on devices which worked solely from punched cards - which started life as a data storage media, which were derived from the loom! :laugh: As usual, the "Search for Beginnings" is complicated...

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

                      We can't say for sure if we didn't try. The result would be one of a kind cloth :D

                      Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                      I think the ping time would make it kinda difficult to play! :laugh:

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        So, what's the definition of Computer?

                        A machine that makes humans waste their lives arguing about semantics. ;)

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                        Must resist upvoting... Failed again. :)

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                          Corporal Agarn
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                          Oh, put a towel on it.

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                          • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                            Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Leslie[^] ;) Kent beat you to it. Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                            • I Ian Shlasko

                              Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                              den2k88
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                              It took me half an hour to get that reference. In my defense I can only say I read it in Italian and not in English, still... shame on me!

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                Hmm, lets see. Z3 was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer. (1941) Colossus is the world's first electronic digital computer that was programmable. (1944) Eniac is the first electronic general-purpose computer. (1946) Are everyone satisfied now? :laugh:

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                                Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                Quite right, I was aware of the German work. Forgot it was called the Z3. The Nazis didn't see what it was good for. Destroyed by bombing if I remember. Another first.

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                                  Leslie[^] ;) Kent beat you to it. Marc

                                  Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                                  Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                  I keep getting lost on the way to the forum. And no. It wasn't a funny thing. :laugh:

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    I think the ping time would make it kinda difficult to play! :laugh:

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                    Nicholas Marty
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                                    Why? With such a low framerate you'd have plenty of time to react so you should be able to hit anything with a perfect shot :laugh:

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I'm tired of the British always trying to steal American glory. If it were up to this American we'd of never introduced tea to the British Isles.

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                                      Sometimes I bet you wish you never discovered us in the first place.

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                                      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                        Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                                        Many first computers here, however this one has a lawsuit attached to it :) Says in the 1930s should be earlier than 1940s :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Vincent_Atanasoff[^]

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                                        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                          Quite right, I was aware of the German work. Forgot it was called the Z3. The Nazis didn't see what it was good for. Destroyed by bombing if I remember. Another first.

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                                          Jochen Arndt
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                                          It has been rebuild twice. First by Konrad Zuse himself (1961). That can be seen in the Deutsches Museum: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/exhibitions/communication/computers/universal-computers/[^]. The second has been build by Horst Zuse (2011-2013): http://www.z3-computer.de/[^] (German page).

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