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  • D David Wulff

    Lol, I wasn't expecting a real answer! Ok, so let's run through the possibilities (I've used using your scoring approach)... gay, lesbian, bi female, straight male: g: 0.5 (the straight guy) = 0.5 l: 1 (the bi chick) = 1 b: 1 (the lesbian) and 1 (the straight guy) and 0.5 (the gay guy) = 2.5 s: 0.5 (the lesbian) and 0.5 (the bi chick) = 1 gay, lesbian, bi female, straight female: g: 0 (no guys and the conversation would be crap) = 0 l: 1 (the bi chick) and 0.5 (the straight chick) = 1.5 b: 1 (the lesbian) and 0.5 (the straight chick) = 1.5 s: 0.5 (the gay guy) = 0.5 gay, lesbian, bi male, straight male: g: 1 (the bi guy) and 0.5 (the straight guy) = 1.5 l: 0 (no chicks and *no* conversation) = 0 b: 1 (the gay guy) and 0.5 (the straight guy) = 1.5 s: 0.5 (the lesbian) = 0.5 gay, lesbian, bi male, straight female: g: 1 (the bi guy) = 1 l: 0.5 (the straight chick) = 0.5 b: 1 (the gay guy), 1 (the straight chick) and 0.5 (the lesbian) = 2.5 s: 0.5 (the guy guy) and 0.5 (the bi male) = 1 Final scores: g: 3 l: 3 b: 7.5 / 2 (both sexes) = 3.75 s: 3.5 / 2 (both sexes) = 1.75 I therefore conclude: - everybody loves the lesbian and the gay though not as much as they'd like - the bisexual has more fun overall and gets more intense enjoyment - the straights lead very boring lives :laugh:


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    Dave One of us, or perhaps both of us must be crazy :-) Nish


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      Ok, here are the problems with your rundown: #1: You scored unrequited lust as .5, as though it would contribute positively to that local social environment. I beg to differ - being around someone you care nothing for who wants you sucks. Almost as much as being around someone you want who cares nothing for you. It makes things awkward, and really takes the fun out of some otherwise good jokes. #2: You also used simple addition to calculate the totals, treating each potential pair as though it existed in a void. In truth however, many of these would be quite awkward - the straight guy and the lesbian both going after the bi chick, the bi guy and the straight guy both going after the bi chick, etc. Since you said nothing about pre-existing relationships, i would assume these were all strangers. Worst-case (and not unlikely) scenario would produce rather some nasty competition. And no-one laughs at your jokes, even if they're funny, if they see you as competition. So what do we have? Some people locked in a room, feeling awkward and resentful of each other. Oh, and claustraphobic... David Wulff wrote: Bah, where's your sense of adventure? Adventure nothing! When i want to be masochistic, i'll spend some quality time alone with my knives... --- Another factor that *could* be figured in... it's worth noting you didn't specify how *long* they would be locked up. Assuming several days to a week, and remembering you didn't mention food, my guess would be the lucky one would be the one who most liked eating raw dead human flesh. Donno how you'd go about applying this to your stats though... ---

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      You forgot the most important one: #3: It is very unlikely, nigh on impossible, that you will get exactly one of person having each of those distinct orientations in one small room that also happens to be locked. Shog9 wrote: Adventure nothing! When i want to be masochistic, i'll spend some quality time alone with my knives... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Oh wait, you were being serious. :~


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        Dave One of us, or perhaps both of us must be crazy :-) Nish


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        I prefer the term mentally different... :rolleyes:


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          I prefer the term mentally different... :rolleyes:


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          David Wulff wrote: mentally different mentally different and behaviorally distinguished - thats what you and I are Nish :-)


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            David Wulff wrote: mentally different mentally different and behaviorally distinguished - thats what you and I are Nish :-)


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            "Behaviorally distinguished" - I'll have to remember that. :cool:


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              "Behaviorally distinguished" - I'll have to remember that. :cool:


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              David Wulff wrote: "Behaviorally distinguished" - I'll have to remember that. Yup, now that you and I are agreed on this, I am wondering how to convince the others :~ Nish


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                David Wulff wrote: "Behaviorally distinguished" - I'll have to remember that. Yup, now that you and I are agreed on this, I am wondering how to convince the others :~ Nish


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                :laugh: Thanks Nish, I needed this. :-D


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                  David Wulff wrote: locked in a room together. Who is the luckiest? The one who gets out! ---

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                  Shog9 wrote: The one who gets out! :laugh: My first thoughts exactly!


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                    When it is in a locked room with a lesbian and a gay male. Nish p.s. This is an original joke I just thought up by myself :-) So you won't find this anywhere else. p.s. #2 I bet this is the first original joke posted on the soap-box


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                    Nishant S wrote: This is an original joke I just thought up by myself I could tell. Nishant S wrote: I bet this is the first original joke posted on the soap-box Yeah, but there's been others just as not funny as this one, so you need to keep working at it..... Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                      Nishant S wrote: This is an original joke I just thought up by myself I could tell. Nishant S wrote: I bet this is the first original joke posted on the soap-box Yeah, but there's been others just as not funny as this one, so you need to keep working at it..... Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                      Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, but there's been others just as not funny as this one, so you need to keep working at it..... LOL I guess you won't like any joke that doesn't do a dig at VB programers, er sorry that itself is an oxymoron eh? VB and programmer :-) Nish


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                        Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, but there's been others just as not funny as this one, so you need to keep working at it..... LOL I guess you won't like any joke that doesn't do a dig at VB programers, er sorry that itself is an oxymoron eh? VB and programmer :-) Nish


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                        How about... Q: When does a condom feel it is useless? A: When it is in a locked room with a nymphomaniac on heat and a VB programmer.


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                          How about... Q: When does a condom feel it is useless? A: When it is in a locked room with a nymphomaniac on heat and a VB programmer.


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                          David Wulff wrote: Q: When does a condom feel it is useless? A: When it is in a locked room with a nymphomaniac on heat and a VB programmer. LOL This really is a good one :-) Nish


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                          • D David Wulff

                            How about... Q: When does a condom feel it is useless? A: When it is in a locked room with a nymphomaniac on heat and a VB programmer.


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                            And how about: Q. When does a condom feel it is useless? A. When it's inside a needle factory.
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                            • D David Wulff

                              How about... Q: When does a condom feel it is useless? A: When it is in a locked room with a nymphomaniac on heat and a VB programmer.


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                              "David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson

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                              David Wulff wrote: nymphomaniac on heat Why the double positive?

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                              • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                Actually, it's pretty clear cut. Sexuality is defined in relation to gender, not physical sex. My gender identity is strongly female according to my psych profile, so for me a straight relationship would be one with a male (natal or female-to-male TS). A lesbian relationship would be one with a female (natal, or pre- or post-op TS). In effect, every relationship I've ever been in was a lesbian one. Although that may change in future (the potential is there, I can feel it) I'm not putting any money on it. It rather depends on who I meet, doesn't it? It's a bit mind-blowing I know, but something I have to face up to. I don't intend to spend the rest of my life alone. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Actually, it's pretty clear cut. Sexuality is defined in relation to gender, not physical sex. I wouldn't personally use the term sexuality in such a limited context. It has far more variables than purely gender, depending upon how you define "sexuality", of course. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: In effect, every relationship I've ever been in was a lesbian one. For you, psychologically speaking, maybe, but not necessarily from the perspective of a (past) partner? The paradoxes involved are difficult to get my head around first thing monday morning. :~ Debbie

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                                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Actually, it's pretty clear cut. Sexuality is defined in relation to gender, not physical sex. I wouldn't personally use the term sexuality in such a limited context. It has far more variables than purely gender, depending upon how you define "sexuality", of course. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: In effect, every relationship I've ever been in was a lesbian one. For you, psychologically speaking, maybe, but not necessarily from the perspective of a (past) partner? The paradoxes involved are difficult to get my head around first thing monday morning. :~ Debbie

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                                  Debs wrote: I wouldn't personally use the term sexuality in such a limited context. It has far more variables than purely gender, depending upon how you define "sexuality", of course. Very true. I was dumbing it down a bit to try to help the guys understand! Debs wrote: For you, psychologically speaking, maybe, but not necessarily from the perspective of a (past) partner? The paradoxes involved are difficult to get my head around first thing monday morning. I know! It took me a while to come to terms with, believe me. It's going to take a long time for the scars to totally heal though - socially I feel like an adolescent at the moment. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                    Debs wrote: I wouldn't personally use the term sexuality in such a limited context. It has far more variables than purely gender, depending upon how you define "sexuality", of course. Very true. I was dumbing it down a bit to try to help the guys understand! Debs wrote: For you, psychologically speaking, maybe, but not necessarily from the perspective of a (past) partner? The paradoxes involved are difficult to get my head around first thing monday morning. I know! It took me a while to come to terms with, believe me. It's going to take a long time for the scars to totally heal though - socially I feel like an adolescent at the moment. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I know! It took me a while to come to terms with, believe me. It's going to take a long time for the scars to totally heal though - socially I feel like an adolescent at the moment. And I can't imagine how it must feel for the other partner, too. :( Having said that, I read an article recently in a woman's mag (can't remember which, I'll try and dig it out) that covered the story of a married couple where the bloke had undergone gender transform to be a woman, and yet they were still together as a couple. That must be a very rare outcome, I would think. Debbie

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                                      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I know! It took me a while to come to terms with, believe me. It's going to take a long time for the scars to totally heal though - socially I feel like an adolescent at the moment. And I can't imagine how it must feel for the other partner, too. :( Having said that, I read an article recently in a woman's mag (can't remember which, I'll try and dig it out) that covered the story of a married couple where the bloke had undergone gender transform to be a woman, and yet they were still together as a couple. That must be a very rare outcome, I would think. Debbie

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                                      Debs wrote: And I can't imagine how it must feel for the other partner, too. It's awful for both partners hun - totally soul destroying. Dysphoria can mean that one partner can't handle staying as they are, while the other can't handle them transitioning. As my own marriage shows all too well, there are no winners in that situation. :(( Debs wrote: Having said that, I read an article recently in a woman's mag (can't remember which, I'll try and dig it out) that covered the story of a married couple where the bloke had undergone gender transform to be a woman, and yet they were still together as a couple. That must be a very rare outcome, I would think. It is fairly uncommon, though not as rare as you'd think. I know two couples personally who are in exactly that situation, and others where they're desperately trying to find a way forward. It's an awful situation to be in. It's difficult enough for a wife whose husband trnsitions, but it's far far harder for the partners of FtMs - very, very few husbands stay with a wife who comes out as being male. The only way to avoid this sort of heartache and loss is to treat dysphoria as young as reasonably possible - ideally no later than the early 20s. Those treated at that age seem to manage to lead fairly normal lives by comparison with those of us who transition in our 30s or later! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                        Debs wrote: And I can't imagine how it must feel for the other partner, too. It's awful for both partners hun - totally soul destroying. Dysphoria can mean that one partner can't handle staying as they are, while the other can't handle them transitioning. As my own marriage shows all too well, there are no winners in that situation. :(( Debs wrote: Having said that, I read an article recently in a woman's mag (can't remember which, I'll try and dig it out) that covered the story of a married couple where the bloke had undergone gender transform to be a woman, and yet they were still together as a couple. That must be a very rare outcome, I would think. It is fairly uncommon, though not as rare as you'd think. I know two couples personally who are in exactly that situation, and others where they're desperately trying to find a way forward. It's an awful situation to be in. It's difficult enough for a wife whose husband trnsitions, but it's far far harder for the partners of FtMs - very, very few husbands stay with a wife who comes out as being male. The only way to avoid this sort of heartache and loss is to treat dysphoria as young as reasonably possible - ideally no later than the early 20s. Those treated at that age seem to manage to lead fairly normal lives by comparison with those of us who transition in our 30s or later! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It's difficult enough for a wife whose husband trnsitions, but it's far far harder for the partners of FtMs - very, very few husbands stay with a wife who comes out as being male. Statistically speaking, the numbers involved here must make it difficult to be representative? Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Those treated at that age seem to manage to lead fairly normal lives by comparison with those of us who transition in our 30s or later! They, presumably, are less likely to have children and family? That must inevitably make it easier, regardless of age. Having said that, I know one person who's mother couldn't accept that her son became a woman, such that they no longer see each other. Debbie

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                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: It's difficult enough for a wife whose husband trnsitions, but it's far far harder for the partners of FtMs - very, very few husbands stay with a wife who comes out as being male. Statistically speaking, the numbers involved here must make it difficult to be representative? Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Those treated at that age seem to manage to lead fairly normal lives by comparison with those of us who transition in our 30s or later! They, presumably, are less likely to have children and family? That must inevitably make it easier, regardless of age. Having said that, I know one person who's mother couldn't accept that her son became a woman, such that they no longer see each other. Debbie

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                                          Debs wrote: Statistically speaking, the numbers involved here must make it difficult to be representative? There are more of us around than people expect. To put it into perspective, there are something like 30,000-40,000 post-op TS women in the US alone. However, it's very hard to come across concrete figures of the actual prevalence. The best study I've seen is "How Frequently Does Transsexualism Occur?"[^] by Lynn Conway, which estimates the incidence of intense male to female (MtF) transsexualism at between 1 in 250 and 1 in 500 of the population. My own experience bears that out - now I'm "out" I've discovered that amongst my old group of friends (< 100 people) there are two of us, and also that I wasn't the only TS girl who left my school that year! A number of colleague have also come forward and told me they have TS friends. Unfortunately data is hard to come by as so many of us are in hiding - and that's especially true for trans-men (i.e. female to male or FtM). In the past much fewer of them have come forward for treatment (although biologically there seems to be no reason for the incidence being any different to MtF), though that seems to be changing. Debs wrote: They, presumably, are less likely to have children and family? That must inevitably make it easier, regardless of age. Having said that, I know one person who's mother couldn't accept that her son became a woman, such that they no longer see each other. Young transitioners have an easier time of it in a lot of ways (except financially, which can be very important), and one thing I've noticed is that most young TS girls I've met are straight, whereas those my age or above are far more likely to be lesbian or bisexual. I'm guessing that's down to the fact that young transitioners haven't spent years trying to fit-in and be "normal" as those my age have - which I know from experience screws around with your sexuality no end! Sadly, acceptance by friends or family is a lottery whatever age you are. I too have lost my parents, but am now closer to my brother than ever before. I truly hope my parents will come round one day - they may feel they've lost a son, but the daughter they never knew they had is finally here. Anna :rose: ww

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