Mum! They've broken the language again!
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Gyere, Gyuri, a gyufagyárba, gyertyát gyújtsunk!
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Gesundheit! :~
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Gesundheit! :~
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeegészségedre!
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
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Hi Nagy, Greets from a country where "mai mai mai mai mai," can mean "new wood doesn't burn, does it ?" Or, "pom ma" can mean "I came/am coming/will come," or "I'm a dog." These choice words from Hungarian are wonderful, could you please record yourself speaking them slowly, and post links to the audio files here :) cheers, Bill
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egészségedre!
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Typical. All other languages have words for "Cheers" that people can actually pronounce when they're sloshed. Leave it to the Hungarians to be different... ;)
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Hi Nagy, Greets from a country where "mai mai mai mai mai," can mean "new wood doesn't burn, does it ?" Or, "pom ma" can mean "I came/am coming/will come," or "I'm a dog." These choice words from Hungarian are wonderful, could you please record yourself speaking them slowly, and post links to the audio files here :) cheers, Bill
«In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
veni bibi saltavi
I really expected an update to some language or another (C#, Java, C++, what have you) :)
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Surely that should be "Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese e Chrissie Waddel y Ryan Giggs"
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
veni bibi saltavi
Really Broken Languages - Top of the List is the Frog-Tongue, French. You probably know they don't count above sixty? After that they start with stuff like sixty-ten. No wonder they have to 'protect' the language: it's already on it's deathbed in the modern world.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Loads of exercise, with wellies! :laugh:
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Really Broken Languages - Top of the List is the Frog-Tongue, French. You probably know they don't count above sixty? After that they start with stuff like sixty-ten. No wonder they have to 'protect' the language: it's already on it's deathbed in the modern world.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
After that they start with stuff like sixty-ten.
English 'breaks' after just 12 with three-ten, four-ten etc. What's your point?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
Nope. You are in error. It's not broken. The eleven and twelve are throwbacks to a long time tradition. That is related to the unit 'dozen' in that twelve was (and still is) a very convenient unit*. It's also common in other languages, fore example German (elf, zwölf, and then dreizehn, etc.). Besides, there's no real analogy in your reply. We're not talking about the numbers between sixty and seventy - we're talking about the fact that they don't even have seventy (and beyond). * Entire Societies believe this to be rather significant - click this link
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
veni bibi saltavi
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
veni bibi saltavi
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
veni bibi saltavi
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Nope. You are in error. It's not broken. The eleven and twelve are throwbacks to a long time tradition. That is related to the unit 'dozen' in that twelve was (and still is) a very convenient unit*. It's also common in other languages, fore example German (elf, zwölf, and then dreizehn, etc.). Besides, there's no real analogy in your reply. We're not talking about the numbers between sixty and seventy - we're talking about the fact that they don't even have seventy (and beyond). * Entire Societies believe this to be rather significant - click this link
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
they don't even have seventy (and beyond).
Yes they do! You've completely missed the point of my analogy. The naming convention by which 70 is 60+10 in French is exactly the same as the English 3+10 for 13 or the German 9+10 for 19. If you say there is no such thing as a French 70 on that basis then there is no such thing as an English 13 or a German 19 either. And actually no language needs any number beyond 9 anyway, assuming it uses a decimal base and has a word for zero. It may be a tad long winded to do without words for the tens from 20 to 90, 100, 1000 and so on but it doesn't mean the language is in any way inferior or broken. That's just a ridiculous assertion.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions."
So it's used every day by millions then.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
they don't even have seventy (and beyond).
Yes they do! You've completely missed the point of my analogy. The naming convention by which 70 is 60+10 in French is exactly the same as the English 3+10 for 13 or the German 9+10 for 19. If you say there is no such thing as a French 70 on that basis then there is no such thing as an English 13 or a German 19 either. And actually no language needs any number beyond 9 anyway, assuming it uses a decimal base and has a word for zero. It may be a tad long winded to do without words for the tens from 20 to 90, 100, 1000 and so on but it doesn't mean the language is in any way inferior or broken. That's just a ridiculous assertion.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
Absolutely wrong. The numbers between 10 and 20 are more commonly used than larger numbers and essentially every language has shortened version of them. None the less, they all exist. For numbers between 20 and 30, 30 and 40, etc., they are constructed by creating the two-word number in a methodical manner: n-ty-one, n-ty-two, etc. After sixty-nine, all civilized languages then move on to seventy. For, as from six descends the concept of six thus does seven beget seventy, eight to eighty. Since we use the decimal system, when ninety-nine is reached, instead of something like tenty, we roll over to a convention for the next order of magnitude.* Now, on the other hand, frog-speak seems to have found the concept beyond sixty-nine to be overwhelmingly complex and thus they needed to start over again with what was obviously at the limits of their comprehension. Even a very small child, having learned to count up to fifty-nine (in a real language) would not move on to sixty ten, but would produce something akin to seventy. Perhaps your defense of the indefensible is out of a misplaced sympathy for the dying. Far better that you let it wend its way into oblivion discretely! * Hobbits of The Shire, in fact, do have numbers such as eleventy, but we are neither in Middle Earth nor in the Third Age thereof.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Absolutely wrong. The numbers between 10 and 20 are more commonly used than larger numbers and essentially every language has shortened version of them. None the less, they all exist. For numbers between 20 and 30, 30 and 40, etc., they are constructed by creating the two-word number in a methodical manner: n-ty-one, n-ty-two, etc. After sixty-nine, all civilized languages then move on to seventy. For, as from six descends the concept of six thus does seven beget seventy, eight to eighty. Since we use the decimal system, when ninety-nine is reached, instead of something like tenty, we roll over to a convention for the next order of magnitude.* Now, on the other hand, frog-speak seems to have found the concept beyond sixty-nine to be overwhelmingly complex and thus they needed to start over again with what was obviously at the limits of their comprehension. Even a very small child, having learned to count up to fifty-nine (in a real language) would not move on to sixty ten, but would produce something akin to seventy. Perhaps your defense of the indefensible is out of a misplaced sympathy for the dying. Far better that you let it wend its way into oblivion discretely! * Hobbits of The Shire, in fact, do have numbers such as eleventy, but we are neither in Middle Earth nor in the Third Age thereof.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I'll be sure to let the Japanese know you don't consider them to have a 'real' language then. Oh, and the Finns, amongst others. At the other extreme Hindustani has a separate word for every single number up to 99. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with that?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Hungarian is a bloody pain in the situpons. A lovely example of how broken it is is this grammatically and almost sensible sentence:
Miraculous curiosities of the Hungarian language ‹ Daily News Hungary[^]:
Te tetted e tettetett tettet, te tettetett tettek tettese.
Totally ridiculous and means "You did this pretended action, you, the delinquent of pretended actions." It does get worse, if you read down. :laugh:
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Sounds like Morse code.... :)
