Why do all Arabs hate Israel?

Jason Henderson

It doesn't seem flipant to me.

Jason Henderson
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Richard Stringer

You are one sick puppie dude. Yea Islams all about peace and love - you would love to have a piece of Israel. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

Felix Gartsman

Jason Henderson wrote: Do they allow Palestinians to have representation in the Israeli government? Can Palestinians vote? Palestenians living in Israel proper (over 1 million) can vote (arab voting rates higher than jewish) and elected. Currently arab parties have 8 seats (of 120) due bad over-splitting, usually it's 10. Jewish (left) parties also have arab members. Goverment is more problematic. There was arab minister (druz), but today none. Arab parties don't join right-wing coalitions.

Richard Stringer

Samer12 wrote: jews tried to poison prophet Mohamed (sala allah alehe wa salam)i But if he was a 'prophet' he knew in advance it was coming and dodged the bullet - so to speak. Hey - how can I crack into this 'prophet' con - sounds like a good gig to me. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

Marc Clifton

Does the word "forgiveness" and its spiritual connotations have any meaning to you? Does the phrase "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" mean anything to you? Are you in the least bit interested in promoting peace, not continued violence, so you, your children, you friends can start leading fruitful, constructive lives? Now, don't think I'm singling you out--I ask these questions of myself, my Jewish friends, etc. Although I have singled you out as basically a very angry, very biased individual. Instead of your rants and anti-American, pro-Arab stance, I'd like to see you post some messages on what you are doing to promote peace and the future of your children (and if you don't have any children, then the future of your culture's children) so they have a chance of growing up without this ancestral hatred. Teach children to hate is a very sad thing. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Jason Henderson

It sounds like they have representation, so why can't they live together peacfully? It looks to me like Yasser Arafat and his terrorists won't let it happen.

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Lost User

Israel is a Jewish state; like Palestine is a Muslim state. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Doug Goulden

To you and I it does :) Unfortunately some people just don't get it Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Lost User

For that to happen, Israel should be made a secular democratic republic, where as now it is a Jewish state by constitution. So, Islamic law does not hold. It is a basic difference. It is the same as asking Jews to live under an Islamic code. The only way would be to make the state secular; but Jews want Jewish laws; and Muslims want Islamic law. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Lost User

IMO, Britain created the mess, and US went there and owned up the mess. US should withdraw from mediation; and let someone else take over the peace process. Nothing worse than being seen as a biased mediator. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Jason Henderson

Very good link! Peoples is a word.

Jason Henderson
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Lost User

Many jews who settled in Israel came from other countries - Germany, Russia and from all over the world. Why? because the British promised them the land as a "Jewish" state; not as a land for the people who lived there. This exodus started after the Balfour declaration in 1922. Winston Churchill also made the famous "dog in a manger" statement. IMO, the British created this mess by allowing large scale immigration of Jews from all over the world, when they had control ... and now everyone wonders why they all can't live together? Jason, assuming that your ancestral line originated in say, Ireland (don't get offened, if you don't like to get drunk on St. Patrick's day - it is just an example), do you have any claim to Ireland? Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Doug Goulden

Thomas George wrote: Nothing worse than being seen as a biased mediator Yeah , tell that to the French ;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Lost User

Thomas George wrote: US should withdraw from mediation; and let someone else take over the peace process. I agree that the US should withdraw, but some other country needs to step forward. Sadly I'm not seeing that happen. I think most of them see it for what it is: A lose/lose situation. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Jason Henderson

Thomas George wrote: Jason, assuming that your ancestral line originated in say, Ireland (don't get offened, if you don't like to get drunk on St. Patrick's day - it is just an example), do you have any claim to Ireland? No, I'm American. BTW, My paternal grandmother was Irish/Welsh, my paternal grandfather was Scotish/Dutch, my maternal grandmother is part American Indian, and my maternal grandfather is of German ancestry. I could lay claim to all of Europe if I thought like Arabs and Jews. However, I am an American "mutt" with allegience to none of them, only my country.

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KaRl

Doug Goulden wrote: You think little children in Israel should die because of something someone else does? Who's brainwashed? You think little children in Iraq should die because of something someone else does, don't you? Or are you opposed to this war?

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Doug Goulden

KaЯl wrote: You think little children in Iraq should die because of something someone else does, don't you No, I think that they should be protected and not victimized. I would like to see little kids from there grow up and go to scholl without being afraid of some Ba'ath party official coming to hurt them or their family, how about you? I think that Sadaam Hussein is evil and a threat to my country and we should have removed him in 1991 when we fought him before, the US let the people of Iraq down when we left Saddam and his sons in power because of UN pressure. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Lost User

Sadly, the situation is so fluid that noone wants to be involved in any manner. Probably, they should be just left to fend for each other. You go to help, and you get blown up. Anyway, if someone can get Norway to do it, it would be great. They have done a good job with SriLanka - LTTE conflict. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Felix Gartsman

Jason Henderson wrote: It sounds like they have representation, so why can't they live together peacfully? It looks to me like Yasser Arafat and his terrorists won't let it happen. The key word is "they". The situation is different for Palestinians in Israel (who got Israeli citizenship) and those in the territories and abroad. Israeli arabs lives extremelly well compared to arabs abroad, but much poorer than jews (mostly, there are rich people). This cause some unrest on daily basis (arab cities have poor infrastructure like schools and roads). The territories arabs don't vote in Israel, but vote in palestinian authority. Gaza city and west bank villiges are really poor and mostly un-educated. West bank cities are in better situations. Refugees in Lebanon live in hell (refugee camps), they are prohibited to build permanent homes, work in many jobs, etc... Similar in Syria, better in Jordan. No one helps them. UN feeds them, but no reconstruction - they can't build homes, they only build camps. This is on purpose, to "maintain" the problem. Europe should force Lebanon/Syria to build new cities for refugees, to ease the suffering.

Felix Gartsman

No jewish laws enforced on muslims. Muslim don't work in fridays, marry by the sharia (muslim law), mosques are funded by government, etc...