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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Hostility begets hostility, and hate begets hate. It will continue as long as people on both sides continue to escalate the "**** those ****ers!" mentality (which, in the West, is wildly propagandised by those who make money out of the hatred). Life is simple if hate-free, but most people don't realise how hatred is a bad thing, because they're too enveloped in it. Lookit this way: If a man is ready to die for the country you support (in much the same way as you support a football team), you'll think him a hero; but if a man is ready to die for another country, you'll think he's a monster. But, by definition, they're the same person! Try thinking of both men as being simply men, and you'll realise that they're both nutters, who should be kept away from women and children at all costs.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Slacker007
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    You mispelled the word ****ers! Just saying... :-D

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I haven't even STARTED to be abusive yet. :)

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Hey, it's never too late!

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      • J jeron1

        A incorrect blanket statement was made regarding U.S. people, based on the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. There is no strict 'right moment' when using guns, your perception of a situation is going to be wholey different than mine.

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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        Stephen Gonzalez
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        IMO, I don't think the OP is trying to generalize U.S as a whole. Hey there is a situation that you need to have a gun, to protect yourself from bad people. You may not use unless if necessary. At least you can scare them.

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        • S Slacker007

          You mispelled the word ****ers! Just saying... :-D

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          Mark_Wallace
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          I never remember if it's double-k. My bad.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • S Stephen Gonzalez

            IMO, I don't think the OP is trying to generalize U.S as a whole. Hey there is a situation that you need to have a gun, to protect yourself from bad people. You may not use unless if necessary. At least you can scare them.

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            jeron1
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            There we differ, I think he/she was taking a cheap shot, to which I was calling them out as to the 'proper use' of weapons.

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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            • J jeron1

              There we differ, I think he/she was taking a cheap shot, to which I was calling them out as to the 'proper use' of weapons.

              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              Stephen Gonzalez
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              Well, I directly related to the current incident occurred in different states. Not word by word.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                They mean nothing together the way you posted them as if you were trying to make a point.

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                PradeepGaggandeep
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                RyanDev wrote:

                They mean nothing together

                In a discussion about police being killed while performing their job, a statistic about police killing others while performing the same said job is not relevant? How not?

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  The problem here is that you, personally, have lost all credibility.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  PradeepGaggandeep
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                  :thumbsup:

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    When blacks stop taking the bait and realize that the government-controlled mainstream media is feeding them bullshit. EDIT =============== Ouch - someone marked my post as spam/abusive. I must have hurt some libtard globalist's feelings. How absurd to mark a post as abusive in the soapbox. My response to that person - grow a pair and stop being a whiney little b|tch.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    I do find that discriminatory, what makes you think the blacks are the only ones being fed bullshit by your govt and haven't realised. A case of reaction => over reaction, escalating. From way outside, it seems you have enough internal problems without any need for terrorist intervention.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Hostility begets hostility, and hate begets hate. It will continue as long as people on both sides continue to escalate the "**** those ****ers!" mentality (which, in the West, is wildly propagandised by those who make money out of the hatred). Life is simple if hate-free, but most people don't realise how hatred is a bad thing, because they're too enveloped in it. Lookit this way: If a man is ready to die for the country you support (in much the same way as you support a football team), you'll think him a hero; but if a man is ready to die for another country, you'll think he's a monster. But, by definition, they're the same person! Try thinking of both men as being simply men, and you'll realise that they're both nutters, who should be kept away from women and children at all costs.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      you'll think him a hero; but if a man is ready to die for another country, you'll think he's a monster.

                      So you consider a marine has the same internal values as an IS terrorist, both are willing to die for their countries (ok so defining an IS country is a little difficult at the moment). I will now be thankful I am on the other side of the planet because I know how twisted those word are.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                        I do find that discriminatory, what makes you think the blacks are the only ones being fed bullshit by your govt and haven't realised. A case of reaction => over reaction, escalating. From way outside, it seems you have enough internal problems without any need for terrorist intervention.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        realJSOP
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                        I didn't say they were the only ones.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          you'll think him a hero; but if a man is ready to die for another country, you'll think he's a monster.

                          So you consider a marine has the same internal values as an IS terrorist, both are willing to die for their countries (ok so defining an IS country is a little difficult at the moment). I will now be thankful I am on the other side of the planet because I know how twisted those word are.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          realJSOP
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                          Those ready to die for their country are usually referred to as patriots. Those that are ready to die for their fake religion are called terrorists.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          • P PradeepGaggandeep

                            RyanDev wrote:

                            They mean nothing together

                            In a discussion about police being killed while performing their job, a statistic about police killing others while performing the same said job is not relevant? How not?

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            PradeepGaggandeep wrote:

                            In a discussion about police being killed while performing their job

                            That is not the discussion nor the statistic you posted. :rolleyes:

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            • P PradeepGaggandeep

                              People killed by police in America year to date: 632 Police killed in Baton Rogue: 3 Police killed in Dallas: 5

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                              Corporal Agarn
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                              You need police killed year to date. You really should not lump police shooting someone shooting at them with the police shooting someone they should not.

                              Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                Those ready to die for their country are usually referred to as patriots. Those that are ready to die for their fake religion are called terrorists.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                den2k88
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                                Those ready to die for their true religions are called martyrs. I don't believe in patriots and martyrs - I would die to defend my family and eventually my country should it be attacked, but I don't think this makes me a patriot. I believe in decent people, criminals and flocks of cowards, everything else is just a label very depending on the POV.

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                                • B Brisingr Aerowing

                                  WATCH LIVE: Officials confirm 3 law enforcement officers dead, 2 suspects at large - WAFB 9 News Baton Rouge, Louisiana News, Weather, Sports[^] :sigh: When will this end?

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                                  HobbyProggy
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                                  Well this is a very complicated situation. To start of i have to say, as long as people can bear guns around shootings will happen. It does not matter if the guns are legally aquired or not. Additionally i will not roll up the debate about are people allowed to carry guns and stuff, we put that aside. So, i am not informed about the whole situation, thats why i can only give my opinion on the news. There are two ways to look at it, first of all why is there a tension between police and residents. If i understood correctly we have a big problem with that. The police is disliked by the residents making them feel uncomfortable instead of safer. This is the first point that makes me scratch my head. I read further that this might urge from the fact that they shot a young boy earlier this year. This leads to the question "Why is the police shooting people dead?". Since i really don'T know what happend i just might say either they were endangered and had no other option or they absolutely failed on their duty and did not even try to wound the boy and disable him. This is a thing only US residents can tell me. Why does your police shoot and then ask questions instead of the other way around or was the only option left killing him on sight? Is the police trained to kill instead of disabling first? The other way to look at this "accident" is why do people go be the judge by them selfs instead of taking the official way and send the "guys" (in this case if the killing of the young boy was wrong -> the police) to court? I guess they would not trust the investigators? They have no faith in their legislation and the correct use of it? Is it pure hate? Too bad we can't ask the guy why he did it. And now i hope someone answers those questions :)

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                                  • H HobbyProggy

                                    Well this is a very complicated situation. To start of i have to say, as long as people can bear guns around shootings will happen. It does not matter if the guns are legally aquired or not. Additionally i will not roll up the debate about are people allowed to carry guns and stuff, we put that aside. So, i am not informed about the whole situation, thats why i can only give my opinion on the news. There are two ways to look at it, first of all why is there a tension between police and residents. If i understood correctly we have a big problem with that. The police is disliked by the residents making them feel uncomfortable instead of safer. This is the first point that makes me scratch my head. I read further that this might urge from the fact that they shot a young boy earlier this year. This leads to the question "Why is the police shooting people dead?". Since i really don'T know what happend i just might say either they were endangered and had no other option or they absolutely failed on their duty and did not even try to wound the boy and disable him. This is a thing only US residents can tell me. Why does your police shoot and then ask questions instead of the other way around or was the only option left killing him on sight? Is the police trained to kill instead of disabling first? The other way to look at this "accident" is why do people go be the judge by them selfs instead of taking the official way and send the "guys" (in this case if the killing of the young boy was wrong -> the police) to court? I guess they would not trust the investigators? They have no faith in their legislation and the correct use of it? Is it pure hate? Too bad we can't ask the guy why he did it. And now i hope someone answers those questions :)

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                                    You are correct. It is a very complicated situation. There are many factors that contribute to an incident where an individual is shot and killed by the police; however, the predominate factor is fear of the unknown. My wife is a former DEA agent and she has described to me the situations she had been in during an arrest. When the police are called to a potential dangerous situation, tension is high. They just don't know what is going to happen, so they prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. Most of the time, everything goes to plan. There is no shooting and the situation gets resolved; however, sometimes things go wrong and someone gets hurt or killed either it be the officer or the perpetrator. There are a very few police officers that allow the "power/badge" go to their head due to ego and feel they can do whatever they want. They are the bad apples of the bunch. They are the ones that cause many of the situations you hear about in the media. It's a very difficult job and a dangerous one at that. They get very little respect, are ridiculed and get very little pay. It is a calling for most of them. On top of all of that, the media exploits those situations where things don't go according to plan and blows everything out of proportion. The media lies and distorts the truth to the point of causing riots. The main stream media is what is to blame for most of this. Rather than getting facts in the news, we get uninformed opinion pieces and rumors. Most of the reporters get their stories from blogs and posts and very rarely fact-check any of the data.

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