.NET & Learning to Code
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
I started the reverse way where the thing I wanted to do was build a web site. So I got the beginning ASP.net for beginners. :wtf: If I had made it to the end of the book I would have been able to build a music site and still not know how to code. Then I got into desktop apps that I wrote apps for processing my own data and eventually hope to have everything with data that will work in the web site. So my advice if you want to do ASP.net is get good with your C# skills because you will need them in order to build a good site. Good Luck!
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
My good advice is that you dont heavingly bet on ASP.net because it is from Microsoft. Microsoft often changes technologies and your stuck somehow. Better is to rely on open source frameworks as jQuery and HTML. And javascript has become a powerful language.
Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
Microsoft Virtual Academy might be worth a look?
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My good advice is that you dont heavingly bet on ASP.net because it is from Microsoft. Microsoft often changes technologies and your stuck somehow. Better is to rely on open source frameworks as jQuery and HTML. And javascript has become a powerful language.
Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany
*spits coffee all over screen* LOL, are you serious? Microsoft is the king of stability whereas anyone who has had the displeasure to work with open source knows how flaky, unreliable, badly documented and non-backwards compatible open source is.
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
There was an article that put the "javascript conquers the world" paradigm in context. To paraphrase - "it's great stuff, but in the big bad corporate world, it's building castles on sand." I've been developing since DOS, so I speak with some experience. (oh, and your article seems odd to be coming from a beginner as you claim, but whatever, it is the net. You take it as it comers.) Microsoft loves VB, including VB.Net. They have always hated C, because they didn't invent it. Why then has VB.Net fallen aside? Because the C variant C# was so superior. For business, you basically have a choice between it, Java and maybe Python (a scripting language, a nice scripting language, but a scripting language). Java has its problems (maybe big ones, but Oracle isn't telling) and .Net is more powerful. Considering the tools available (free Visual Studio anyone?) and libraries, nothing can compare to C#.Net for building business applications. Now after having used it starting in 2002, ASP.Net sucks and I thought so until a few years ago when I learned MVC (Not that ASP.Net quit sucking, I quit using it). If you can do REST, you should be able to do MVC...(some beginner). At that point, if you know JQuery and basic CSS as well as Bootstrap, you have to tools to make any web page you need basically. Javascript is always a challenge, but practice makes perfect. Now note that there is Node.js, which while pretty neat, pretty much has only one capability that is unique. For a super high capacity website, its threading model may be superior to what anything else can produce. Speaking as an architect developer that learned by fixing other's mistakes, you sound like you have a great start on most of what you need. If you are a beginner, focus on what you listed, it's enough for now. Then work... and you learn whatever you want.
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*spits coffee all over screen* LOL, are you serious? Microsoft is the king of stability whereas anyone who has had the displeasure to work with open source knows how flaky, unreliable, badly documented and non-backwards compatible open source is.
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
The language you use is irrelevant. They are all the same, but each has it's own brand of sugar substitute where syntax is concerned.
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
"Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week" Your ultimate goal should be go out and ride a bike or something ;P
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
Hi I m coming from almost same path .I also learned C# and I like more web developing as you.If you want to be a full stack or back end developer ASP.NET is really powerful and many sites start to have it.I recommend udemy which courses are real cheap and great .Check for complete web developers courses with high ranking.Also these courses have bootstrap as you really predicted like me that the future is in the web and especially mobile.
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Hi I m coming from almost same path .I also learned C# and I like more web developing as you.If you want to be a full stack or back end developer ASP.NET is really powerful and many sites start to have it.I recommend udemy which courses are real cheap and great .Check for complete web developers courses with high ranking.Also these courses have bootstrap as you really predicted like me that the future is in the web and especially mobile.
[edit] meant to post this as a reply to Todd! [/edit] Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
0. Pick a very simple concept, like a todo list, and write down what the requirements are 1. Learn how to write the front end and back end without things like ASP.NET, jQuery, etc. 2. Re-implement the same simple concept, but with things like ASP.NET, jQuery, etc. 3. Discover how that tech makes your life easier 4. Discover how that tech makes your life harder 5a. Iterate, with the same concept, but different tech choices. 5b. Iterate, with a slightly more complex concept. Why write down the requirements? Because that way, you can create a matrix of: 1. what did I have to do to meet that requirement? 2. how did some XYZ tech change how I met that requirement? 3. was it better, worse, or just different? Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
You're just second-guessing now. Go to a freelancer site, and start bidding on some small jobs that you think you can handle. It's all about managing clients and expectations ... if you plan on making a living at it. And the "job" never turns out as described; or evolves.
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There was an article that put the "javascript conquers the world" paradigm in context. To paraphrase - "it's great stuff, but in the big bad corporate world, it's building castles on sand." I've been developing since DOS, so I speak with some experience. (oh, and your article seems odd to be coming from a beginner as you claim, but whatever, it is the net. You take it as it comers.) Microsoft loves VB, including VB.Net. They have always hated C, because they didn't invent it. Why then has VB.Net fallen aside? Because the C variant C# was so superior. For business, you basically have a choice between it, Java and maybe Python (a scripting language, a nice scripting language, but a scripting language). Java has its problems (maybe big ones, but Oracle isn't telling) and .Net is more powerful. Considering the tools available (free Visual Studio anyone?) and libraries, nothing can compare to C#.Net for building business applications. Now after having used it starting in 2002, ASP.Net sucks and I thought so until a few years ago when I learned MVC (Not that ASP.Net quit sucking, I quit using it). If you can do REST, you should be able to do MVC...(some beginner). At that point, if you know JQuery and basic CSS as well as Bootstrap, you have to tools to make any web page you need basically. Javascript is always a challenge, but practice makes perfect. Now note that there is Node.js, which while pretty neat, pretty much has only one capability that is unique. For a super high capacity website, its threading model may be superior to what anything else can produce. Speaking as an architect developer that learned by fixing other's mistakes, you sound like you have a great start on most of what you need. If you are a beginner, focus on what you listed, it's enough for now. Then work... and you learn whatever you want.
OK, I'll bite. c#? Superior? C and C++ certainly, but VB.net is just as capable as C#. The reason C# is more popular is that more developers used C and C++ so it was easier to move to C#. Neither VB.net or C# is significantly better than the other. Both VB.net and C# have "features" that are disliked by opposing camps, but essentially they are almost the same. Dim flameWar as Boolean flameWar = True ;)
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OK, I'll bite. c#? Superior? C and C++ certainly, but VB.net is just as capable as C#. The reason C# is more popular is that more developers used C and C++ so it was easier to move to C#. Neither VB.net or C# is significantly better than the other. Both VB.net and C# have "features" that are disliked by opposing camps, but essentially they are almost the same. Dim flameWar as Boolean flameWar = True ;)
Having used both VB.Net and C#.Net, I like C# far better. He was asking opinions of what to learn and you gave the main reason that VB.Net has fallen in favor as I said it had. Also, it's not just a question of why learn VB when C and C++ are so common, also include javascript which has grown greatly in popularity and usage. From C to javascript is easy, from VB to javascript would be a far bigger jump. I recommended against learning VB.Net and still would. dynamic d = Json.Decode({"flameWar":false,"Rant":"off"})
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Are there any communities around beginning ASP.NET/.NET Framework development? My path of education has taken some interesting, less-than-common twists (I believe) when compared with your typical, modern web dev newbie/student. My journey started with C# because my friend who got me into coding in the first place (well, I had done it before but I was 12 years old lol) told me that C# would be a great language to learn. He was right; I love C#! But I soon found out that the majority of coding jobs and where the industry is heading is web-development. I also enjoy using websites myself (like this one), and web development is of interest to me anyway. That's when I searched for learning web dev and I found places like Free Code Camp[^] . To make an otherwise super long story short, after learning the C# language basics (up through delegates, lambda expressions, generics,and some multithreading principles), I then used FreeCodeCamp to try and learn what I thought was going to be some simple front-end stuff. Well, they exposed me to HTML, jQuery, CSS, and Bootstrap all in the same day and I was like whoa.. So I bought textbooks and I learned HTML/CSS, and while I knew I needed to eventually learn JavaScript, I was still brand new to C# (and really, I still am.. Im talking 2 months ago here... Except 2 months 12 hrs a day 6 days a week). Fast forward again, after learning HTML and CSS, I realized I wanted to spend more time on C# rather than learn JS, which meant not going on Free Code Camp for a while. Instead, I enrolled in courses that teach ASP.NET Model View Controller, Web API, and Entity Framework. I also learned some LINQ, RESTful services, CRUD operations, how to make an API, etc... Eventually, even in the ASP.NET course, I did need to use some jQuery for some form development. Not that big of a deal... But when I started getting into the jQUery/JS Ajax stuff while trying to send GET/POST requests to my own server to get my page data via JSON, I realized... Ok, I don't really know what Im doing with this jQuery and JS stuff.. Re-enter Free Code Camp... And my decision to finally tackle jQuery/JS. Free Code Camp has great lessons (for the most part, I do find some to be dry or inadequately explain information) and a very strong, helpful community but the biggest thing I've run into here is... Their program focusses on the MEAN stack... But I really like .NET. I enjoy C#, ASP.NET,
i think they all use MEAN because it's mostly, or completely free. i know exactly how you feel when every academy uses that stack and it makes you wonder if you should start doing the same. i'd avoid it for now, if possible. stay focused on the stack you're using or you'll get too spread out. i think there are more ms-stack jobs available than we think. you'll find something, esp if you stay really focused on it. try the other stuff later. and you can still do a lot of js a jquery within the ms stack.
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Having used both VB.Net and C#.Net, I like C# far better. He was asking opinions of what to learn and you gave the main reason that VB.Net has fallen in favor as I said it had. Also, it's not just a question of why learn VB when C and C++ are so common, also include javascript which has grown greatly in popularity and usage. From C to javascript is easy, from VB to javascript would be a far bigger jump. I recommended against learning VB.Net and still would. dynamic d = Json.Decode({"flameWar":false,"Rant":"off"})
I do agree with you however that learning VB.net is the wrong choice these days (the one I made :laugh: ) And after I've had a long look at ADA, C# will be next.
