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  • C Clifford Nelson

    Of course that is not really Javascript's problem. I see plenty of stupid errors in Visual Studio. Sometimes when you have a mistake that means that a project does not compile there are a ton of others. Then there was the time that I had a WPF UserControl and the code behind did not see the names in the XAML. I would love to blame Javascript for this problem since I am not fond of the language for a number or reasons, but in this case I cannot.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Clifford Nelson wrote:

    I see plenty of stupid errors in Visual Studio.

    True - the ones that are worst are Linq errors - those errors messages usually have nothing to do with the actual error. Marc

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      Marc man, what are you using for an IDE? function is a keyword and should be highlighted. You're making this hard on yourself man.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      Marc man, what are you using for an IDE?

      I'm using Sublime. I suppose I could try VS Code, but then I have to figure out how to set it up to FTP saves over to the Ubuntu VM running the app. (Editing in Ubuntu sucks, one of many reasons being that the numeric keypad cursor keys don't work, and using the "T" is not something I ever got used to and cramps my fingers.) Marc

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      • R raddevus

        10 minutes is fast to find that. I'm serious. I've had a single missing comma cost me over an hour. Painful.

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        raddevus wrote:

        I've had a single missing comma cost me over an hour.

        Same here. It took forever to actually realize it even wanted a comma. That was in my n00b days working with Backbone. Sort of trial by fire, was asked to implement a bunch of pages on existing project, never used Backbone before. Marc

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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          Marc man, what are you using for an IDE?

          I'm using Sublime. I suppose I could try VS Code, but then I have to figure out how to set it up to FTP saves over to the Ubuntu VM running the app. (Editing in Ubuntu sucks, one of many reasons being that the numeric keypad cursor keys don't work, and using the "T" is not something I ever got used to and cramps my fingers.) Marc

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          I use Sublime also. It supports syntax highlighting. You having a rough day? :laugh: You need a hug? I can code one up for ya in JavaScript.

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          • A Aless Alessio

            :^) oh man ... am i the only weirdo who likes coding in Javascript ?!?

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            Shuqian Ying
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            I am one that don't dislike javascript anymore, although I used to. In fact we just finished a quite complex system in which javascript plays a major role in both the server side and client side (see my signature) and it works quite well. As a matter of fact, I am feeling that the javascript codes we produced are more readable than the C# counter part (some of the equivalent logic were were realized in C# before) due to its functional style of representation

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            • M Marc Clifton

              raddevus wrote:

              I've had a single missing comma cost me over an hour.

              Same here. It took forever to actually realize it even wanted a comma. That was in my n00b days working with Backbone. Sort of trial by fire, was asked to implement a bunch of pages on existing project, never used Backbone before. Marc

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              raddevus
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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              It took forever to actually realize it even wanted a comma. That was in my n00b days working with...

              AngularJS (1.x) Exact same experience, just a different JS library. :) Hilarious!! and/or Terrible!! All for the lack of a decent compiler and good warnings.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                Plamen Dragiyski
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                If that didn't make your half program red, you use the wrong IDE. In fact a simple editor that highlight keywords would detect that (Why is the "funtion" not highlighted?). When people used notepad (not notepad++) for programming they had all these problems with typos and semicolons. Those were difficult ancient times...

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                  Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                  Jan Hansen
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                  Be mindful of the dark side...

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                  • A Aless Alessio

                    let's make an agreement, mate: you'll deal with my XAML and i ll take your javascript duties

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    How about you do my CSS and I'll fix whatever problems you have (car, marriage, kids, anything is more fixable than CSS) X|

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                      Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

                      Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      I once spend 15 minutes trying to write a simple Hello World in JavaScript. I had pretty much the same problem. Boy, do you feel stupid when you have years of experience and fail at Hello World :laugh: Luckily I now know the problem is JavaScript, not me :D I find JavaScript doable nowadays, but only when I don't have to deal with other people's code.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                        Kiriander
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                        Be glad that you hate it. A couple of my coworkers are full on Stockholm syndrome.

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                        • K Kiriander

                          Be glad that you hate it. A couple of my coworkers are full on Stockholm syndrome.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                            Dar Brett 0
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                            If you think that's bad - you should try missing a semicolon after a class definition in C++

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                            • A Aless Alessio

                              :-D come ooooooooooooon With the relatively new "ECMA6", writing in Javascript is pretty much like writing in C# ECMAScript 6: New Features: Overview and Comparison[^]

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                              lindennerd1992
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                              goddam right! :thumbsup:

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                              • A Aless Alessio

                                :-D come ooooooooooooon With the relatively new "ECMA6", writing in Javascript is pretty much like writing in C# ECMAScript 6: New Features: Overview and Comparison[^]

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                                That's fine if you control the environment. If you're writing a website, it's going to be 10+ years before you can safely use those features without a "transpiler" to convert them back to ES5. And even then, you'll still have users on IE6 complaining that your site is broken. :rolleyes:


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                                  Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                                  sir_download_alot
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                                  Yeah, Cobol was easier!

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                                  • A Aless Alessio

                                    :^) oh man ... am i the only weirdo who likes coding in Javascript ?!?

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                                    ClockMeister
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                                    Nope. Takes a little getting used to when you usually code in C# or something but it's just another language you can do some interesting things with.

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                                      Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

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                                      xtofl
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                                      Really? No syntax hilighting? `function` is blue and `funtion` is grey. Or you're using the wrong editor. Otherwise, prepend this to all your javascript:

                                      var funtion = function(){ throw new Error("you typed _funtion_ instead of _function_"); };
                                      var x = funtion() {};

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                                        Took me 10 minutes to find the error: onProceed: funtion() { And of course, the only error I get is Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token { So of course I wonder, where did I have a mismatched curly brace??? Wrong wonderment. X| Marc

                                        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                                        [joke] pro tip: don't program in notepad [/joke] Just use vscode[^]

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                                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                          That's fine if you control the environment. If you're writing a website, it's going to be 10+ years before you can safely use those features without a "transpiler" to convert them back to ES5. And even then, you'll still have users on IE6 complaining that your site is broken. :rolleyes:


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                                          Aless Alessio
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                                          That's the thing! If you look at this link ECMAScript 6 compatibility table[^] you ll see that almost every browser is now ECMA6 compatible. The only and only exception is IE. So, let's move those old IE aficionados to Edge then

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