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Somebody out there who also has to work with Embarcadero C++ Builder?

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  • L Lost User

    I need to work a lot with C++ Builder and I like it a lot and I hate it lot of times a lot more; for me it (Embarcadero/former Borland) is the real case if a love hate. A long time before MS they introduced a nice visual form designer, with a very clever structure (VCL, visual component library), easy to understand, easy to handle and easy to extend. But meanwhile they are always about two “decades” behind the state of the technics. - Even today, with RAD Studio it is a hassle to e.g. use Unicode in the source file. - Also stability of the IDE in case of bigger projects is frustrating I have to admit, I know VS only for small projects, but it is much more comfortable and reliable. Anybody out there who also suffers under Embarcadero? [Edit] BTW I Need to work with "Embarcadero® C++Builder 10.1 Berlin Version 24.0.25048.9432" [/Edit]

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    Munchies_Matt
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    0x01AA wrote:

    Embarcadero

    Not a ship I sail with I am afraid. :)

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    • R RedDk

      Here's how you find a list of gypsys who are still ridgeroaming the www ... but should be quite happy with VS later than 2010 ... https://www.codeproject.com/search.aspx?q=Embarcadero&sbo=qa&usfc=false&x=4&y=7 Sift through the names here and solicit directly.

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      Lost User
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      Thank you :) :thumbsup:

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        0x01AA wrote:

        Embarcadero

        Not a ship I sail with I am afraid. :)

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        It's not a ship anymore, it's just a bark :) Em_bark_adero :laugh:

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        • L Lost User

          It's not a ship anymore, it's just a bark :) Em_bark_adero :laugh:

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          Munchies_Matt
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          Glad you got the pun! :)

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            Glad you got the pun! :)

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            Lost User
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            That was only a lucky shot ;P

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            • L Lost User

              That was only a lucky shot ;P

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              But fairly evident nontheless: barque - Recherche Google[^] :)

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                But fairly evident nontheless: barque - Recherche Google[^] :)

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                For me it's more "naufrage" [schiffbruch - Google-Suche](https://www.google.ch/search?q=schiffbruch&biw=1382&bih=686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN8a2qyeXRAhXHShQKHaE8DdwQ\_AUIBigB) :-D

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                • L Lost User

                  For me it's more "naufrage" [schiffbruch - Google-Suche](https://www.google.ch/search?q=schiffbruch&biw=1382&bih=686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN8a2qyeXRAhXHShQKHaE8DdwQ\_AUIBigB) :-D

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                  "schiffbruch" Ship breach? :) We have a skiff in English: schiffbruch - Google-Suche[^]

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                  • G glennPattonPub

                    Not Emarcadero flavour but Borland Builder 2006, so close to .NET yet so far(?) Didn't really like it or see the need for it. It's just the guy who wrote the software kept using Borland...I really only used the DOS Turbo versions at College and Uni (and liked those). Having come from the VS Windos background to the Borland (or as I christen it Bob the) Builder. It was a step sideways, it always seemed to want you to do things the Pascal way... :sigh:

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                    Borland Builder 2006, so close to .NET yet so far(?)

                    But a decade before .net ;)

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                    • L Lost User

                      I need to work a lot with C++ Builder and I like it a lot and I hate it lot of times a lot more; for me it (Embarcadero/former Borland) is the real case if a love hate. A long time before MS they introduced a nice visual form designer, with a very clever structure (VCL, visual component library), easy to understand, easy to handle and easy to extend. But meanwhile they are always about two “decades” behind the state of the technics. - Even today, with RAD Studio it is a hassle to e.g. use Unicode in the source file. - Also stability of the IDE in case of bigger projects is frustrating I have to admit, I know VS only for small projects, but it is much more comfortable and reliable. Anybody out there who also suffers under Embarcadero? [Edit] BTW I Need to work with "Embarcadero® C++Builder 10.1 Berlin Version 24.0.25048.9432" [/Edit]

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                      I had to use it earlier this year and found it to be a big pile of junk. The crappy IDE aside, the compiler is horrible. Let's put it this way; I find it preferable to use Eclipse in CentOS 6. Now that's damning.

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                      • J Joe Woodbury

                        I had to use it earlier this year and found it to be a big pile of junk. The crappy IDE aside, the compiler is horrible. Let's put it this way; I find it preferable to use Eclipse in CentOS 6. Now that's damning.

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                        The crappy IDE

                        I'm working with it since about 20 years, so I got used to it... As long as it starts up and does not abort abnormally, which happens too often :mad:

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                        the compiler is horrible

                        Yes indeed! But fortunately for about $140 JomiTech helps for this with TwineCompile which drastically decrease compile time (about factor 10). But the price includes also some new side effects and the increase of the chance that the IDE crashes :^)

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