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Shortage of Junior .net Developer !!!

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  • B Bryian Tan

    For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

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    Erik Burd
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    There's no such thing as a "junior" anymore. All of the NCGs are working on Python, Javascript and other stuff. C# and .NET in general doesn't exist to them.

    "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian

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    • B Bryian Tan

      For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

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      David Carta
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      In my experience, this shortage is due to the HOT or NOT view of programming. Dot.Net is not seen as sexy to the incoming crop of CS. Swift - Sexy C# / Xamarin - Not sexy Node/Angular - Sexy VB.NET - Not sexy...and worse - taught in pseudo-CS courses as "programming" PHP - Not Sexy ASP.NET - Not Sexy Java - Not Sexy Ruby on Rails - Used to be Sexy, but not anymore SQL Server = Not Sexy MongoDB - Sexy Postgres - Sexy MySQL - Not Sexy C - Nox Sexy In general Microsoft Backed - Less Sexy Open Source - More Sexy We have a rich code base in VB.NET, but have had to teach incoming employees the language and framework. Thankfully, it is super quick to get up to speed with. Which is probably why the only people who get VB.NET or C# experience are the CS-Lite degrees (Computer Engineering, etc.) I see new grads with Java,Erlang, Scala, Python, and Ruby "experience", of which we only commercially use Ruby. Java, which is taught almost exclusively at schools around San Diego, is something we don't even use.

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      • D DodgyCode

        I remember an email this week from an agent looking for a senior .NET developer with 3+ years experience. To be fair I've also worked with senior developers with less ability than juniors/graduates. Titles mean far less than client requirements and day rate/salary. Also, years don't necessarily indicate experience.

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        It would have been possible for someone in 2005 to have had five years experience with .NET. You are forgetting that Microsoft had a beta program for .NET. I was a part of it, and have a vivid memory of being in Redmond, for a week in 1999 for a working session with Microsoft. One of the reasons it is vivid, is because of one session beginning at 4PM where the Microsoft team comes in in flannel shirts and blue jeans carrying a large tub filled with ice & beer. Then we got an impromptu session by the guy who wrote ASP.NET. It was pretty amazing watching him break the cardinal rule of presentations by slinging code in Notepad & not ever having anything break.

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        • B Bryian Tan

          For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

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          Daniel Wilianto
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          All the juniors from my college that I met are crazy about bootstrap and angular and php. :-D

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          • B Bryian Tan

            For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

            Bryian Tan

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            John Paul Aldrin
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            I graduated four years ago from college -- and all I have been able to get are interviews for 5+ years to Senior Level roles. Nobody works with people anymore to train, Companies don't want American workers to train they all outsource Director and Sr. level roles from India, Russia, Pakistan, then that manager hires young people from his country.... Seen it for years. There is NO shortage of Jr. roles just a shortage of jobs because they are all being booked by foreign workers. Government, Silicon Valley, Microsoft, it's everywhere!!! :~

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            • B Bryian Tan

              For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

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              Reelix
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              The general thing is to hire a mid-level dev on a junior devs salary - Seems to work when people are struggling to find jobs

              -= Reelix =-

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