what do you think about ad blocking?
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If you're a business and your only source of revenue is advertisements then you're business plan is horrible and your business is more likely to fail. There is a reason that successful businesses do not rely on one source of income.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I go further than just blocking ads. I use an Ad-Blocker, Ghostery, No-Script (on Firefox), with an HTML5 Auto-Play Disabler. When it comes to websites with an Ad-Blocker wall, if I really want to see, I use a small program that I wrote to perform an HTTP GET request and displays it's pure text return. More often then not, the content I want is in the response buried along with a thousand lines of anti-ad-blocking javascript. If this advertiser<>ad-blocker war continues to escalate, I might consider writing a very light weight web browser of my own that parses out everything but text content with the option of downloading images with a click.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I am the owner of my machine, I say what its resources
So, you are not the owner of your radio? Or your TV?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
It's just as much "stealing" as it is when you close your eyes for an ad that is hosted next to the road. In that sense,
The analogy is all wrong. Those ads do not pay for the roads.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
011111100010 wrote:
So, you are not the owner of your radio? Or your TV?
Unfortunately, I have no control over those broadcasts, and the machine itself does not allow for modifications of the content. I bought it, knowing I cannot change the content. A PC is not a radio, and the results of me not being in control may have very different outcomes. For a radio, there's no risc. For my PC, the risc would be for several companies :)
011111100010 wrote:
The analogy is all wrong. Those ads do not pay for the roads.
Neither is the website-exploiting entity required to get all funding from ads. If it does, that's a choice, and I make mine. Ads aren't that "nice" stuff that keeps things free; it is everywhere, and it is consuminig brain-capacity that could be used for something usefull. There should be a planet-wide ban on ads.
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Because there have never been bad ads that don't require you to interact with them, right?
Not the sites I go to.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Well, I guess we know what you're up to in your spare time, then! :-D Religious Sites Carry More Malware Than Porn Sites, Security Firm Reports | PCWorld[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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how many of you block ads? I am increasingly finding that access to links from the Daily News are denied and the content replaced by "you are using an adblocker". My reaction generally is to leave and not bother with the info so it feels like shooting themselves in the foot I am actually not using an adblocker but just have an extensive hosts file. Primarily to try and protect from sites that I don't want to end up at even accidentally Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them? and if you do, how many of you skip the ads on your video recorder?
MikeD 2 wrote:
Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
No, totally disagree, in a "would go to war to stop it from happening"-way. Companies being able to arbitrarily force people to do what they want is some ridiculous dystopian scenario that completely dehumanizes people into livestock. Anyone who feels like a person instead of an animal should vehemently oppose this. Hiding content behind an adblock detector is fair game though, naturally I can't force them to do anything either. I generally leave those sites though.
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I wish that the HTML document specification remained simple enough to display web pages in a console. Alas, that is not the case. It seems like everything, including the kitchen sink, has been thrown into web pages.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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MikeD 2 wrote:
how many of you block ads?
I do not but this topic has been here before and I can tell you a lot of people do. I find it odd that software developers in particular are OK with blocking ads. We, of all people, should understand the need for a website to earn money and blocking their ads is stealing because you get the content without paying for it. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here. Granted, I don't go to sites that have lots of ads. If someone here links to a site with lots of ads that lock up my browser, I just close the site and move on. Most sites, that I go to, do not run enough ads to be a bother.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
That's one of the reasons I like uBlock - it gives you a "blocked on the page" count. 3, 5, 7 ok. 26? No thanks...
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011111100010 wrote:
So, you are not the owner of your radio? Or your TV?
Unfortunately, I have no control over those broadcasts, and the machine itself does not allow for modifications of the content. I bought it, knowing I cannot change the content. A PC is not a radio, and the results of me not being in control may have very different outcomes. For a radio, there's no risc. For my PC, the risc would be for several companies :)
011111100010 wrote:
The analogy is all wrong. Those ads do not pay for the roads.
Neither is the website-exploiting entity required to get all funding from ads. If it does, that's a choice, and I make mine. Ads aren't that "nice" stuff that keeps things free; it is everywhere, and it is consuminig brain-capacity that could be used for something usefull. There should be a planet-wide ban on ads.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
it is consuminig brain-capacity t
Ah, I think we found the issue. Just ignore them. :-\ When ads come in the mail, I throw them away. No brain power required. :-D
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Well, I guess we know what you're up to in your spare time, then! :-D Religious Sites Carry More Malware Than Porn Sites, Security Firm Reports | PCWorld[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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MikeD 2 wrote:
Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
No, the contract is between the advertiser and the broadcaster. The broadcaster is obliged to play them but I am not obliged to endure them.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
PeejayAdams wrote:
but I am not obliged to endure them.
Why not? Isn't the owner of the site stating that if you want to use my site you need to watch ads? It's an implicit contract?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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how many of you block ads? I am increasingly finding that access to links from the Daily News are denied and the content replaced by "you are using an adblocker". My reaction generally is to leave and not bother with the info so it feels like shooting themselves in the foot I am actually not using an adblocker but just have an extensive hosts file. Primarily to try and protect from sites that I don't want to end up at even accidentally Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them? and if you do, how many of you skip the ads on your video recorder?
I block pop-ups in Edge plus I use a hosts file. That is plenty good for me. I don't feel obligated to subject myself to on-line ads. When I buy a newspaper I don't read the ads. Same basic principle applies to online ads.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I wish that the HTML document specification remained simple enough to display web pages in a console. Alas, that is not the case. It seems like everything, including the kitchen sink, has been thrown into web pages.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
Foothill wrote:
everything, including the kitchen sink, has been thrown into web pages.
Well, we needed somewhere to wash up status code 418[^]. :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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If you're a business and your only source of revenue is advertisements then you're business plan is horrible and your business is more likely to fail. There is a reason that successful businesses do not rely on one source of income.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
Foothill wrote:
If you're a business and your only source of revenue is advertisements
Well, there was this one company, named google. :laugh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
it is consuminig brain-capacity t
Ah, I think we found the issue. Just ignore them. :-\ When ads come in the mail, I throw them away. No brain power required. :-D
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I do not even get ads in the mail. There's a sticker on the door saying no; useless waste of money, dead trees and ink. The idea of ads is that they work even if you ignore them; that's why so much money is spent on it. Repeated messages (the shorter, the better) tend to stick well in our brain. It's a waste on a massive scale.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I block pop-ups in Edge plus I use a hosts file. That is plenty good for me. I don't feel obligated to subject myself to on-line ads. When I buy a newspaper I don't read the ads. Same basic principle applies to online ads.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Cornelius Henning wrote:
Same basic principle applies to online ads.
True. But you can't buy the newspaper without the ads. You choose to not look at them. You don't actually block them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I do not even get ads in the mail. There's a sticker on the door saying no; useless waste of money, dead trees and ink. The idea of ads is that they work even if you ignore them; that's why so much money is spent on it. Repeated messages (the shorter, the better) tend to stick well in our brain. It's a waste on a massive scale.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I know. When you're starting off, ads may be your only source of revenue. If websites didn't take such a lazy approach to ad curation, e.g. Google AdSense, and strategically place ads relevant to their audience, I would assume that Ad-Blocking wouldn't really be a thing. One of the things that really pushed me over to the block-by-default crowd started with weather websites that put an ad before every video, which for fluff pieces is acceptable, but when your searching for time-critical updates on a tornado encroaching on your area, a minute long advert on the latest pill or drug is very irritating (and possibly life-threatening).
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
Same basic principle applies to online ads.
True. But you can't buy the newspaper without the ads. You choose to not look at them. You don't actually block them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
So would you be OK with an ad-blocking solution that downloaded the ads, but didn't run the code or display them?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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how many of you block ads? I am increasingly finding that access to links from the Daily News are denied and the content replaced by "you are using an adblocker". My reaction generally is to leave and not bother with the info so it feels like shooting themselves in the foot I am actually not using an adblocker but just have an extensive hosts file. Primarily to try and protect from sites that I don't want to end up at even accidentally Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them? and if you do, how many of you skip the ads on your video recorder?
Anyone has the right to filter what is not wanted on the screen. If they didn't have that right then family protection filters and company firewalls would be illegal.
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
Same basic principle applies to online ads.
True. But you can't buy the newspaper without the ads. You choose to not look at them. You don't actually block them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
