Deforestation in the Amazon
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So all the usual types are virtue signalling over this, the celebs, Macron, and the media all over it with the usual climate change stuff (actually mature trees dont absorb carbon, they have stopped growing, but hey, dont confuse the fear with facts eh?). As it turns out deforestation has decline massively since 2000: https://imgs.mongabay.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2015/05/03204742/amazon-deforestation-brazil-1988-present.png[^] this is 1988 to 2017, the big drop starting around 2000 Alot of the images I have seen have been of fields burning too, not forest. Like this one, In Bolsonaro’s Brazil, a Showdown Over Amazon Rainforest[^] balled as 'forest on fire' when it isnt, it is actually grass burning, or old crops. We do this in the UK too every year. Another fact that the enviros hate is that the Amazon was until a few centuries ago home to many millions. Deforestation has exposed old towns and villages: Video: Lost cities of the Amazon | People of One Fire[^] Some are saying it was 'highly urbanised', and a significant proportion was savanna. Of course we are being told that todays minimal change, and much less than in the past, is a disaster, a tipping point. It is the same old thing, over and over again, lies BS spin and crap, being rammed down our throats by the media, corrupt scientists, and agenda driven politicians.
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lw@zi wrote:
Amazon deforestation is a problem. A big one.
I just showed you this guy is lying, deforestation rates are not on the rise, they are way down massively since 2000. I also showed you that the amazon was in large part grassland a few centuries ago and supported a population of millions. Do you buy the crap this guy is spewing in the video? It is BS, all of it. Lies and distortion. The amazon is not the 'lungs of the earth'. This kind of crap was peddled back in the 70s, we were told we would have no oxygen in the air if the amazon was cut down. It is bullshit, most of the worlds oxygen comes form plankton in the sea: How much do oceans add to world's oxygen? | Earth | EarthSky[^] This guy is lying. Cant you see?
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DO you expect the line to be flat? Of course it will vary, up and down, but using one years trend and screaming about an increase when the long term trend is down massively is called what? Yes, BULLSHIT is the answer.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
it is actually grass burning, or old crops. We do this in the UK too every year.
That was banned years ago: Lincolnshire farmer defies stubble burning ban - BBC News[^].
Oh yeah, havent lived in the UK for a while. It was after that crash wasnt it. Anyway, irrelevant, stubble burning is still an agricultural practice: Stubble burning - Wikipedia[^]
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Oh yeah, havent lived in the UK for a while. It was after that crash wasnt it. Anyway, irrelevant, stubble burning is still an agricultural practice: Stubble burning - Wikipedia[^]
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I do now, but was abroad for a long time.
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DO you expect the line to be flat? Of course it will vary, up and down, but using one years trend and screaming about an increase when the long term trend is down massively is called what? Yes, BULLSHIT is the answer.
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You posted one image from a site called mongabay.com. If I go to their own website, there are articles talking about deforestation problem.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Dear oh dear. Deforestation is massively reduced since 2000. Yes? DO you see the facts, can you see the graph, can it get through your agenda bias at all?
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Dear oh dear. Deforestation is massively reduced since 2000. Yes? DO you see the facts, can you see the graph, can it get through your agenda bias at all?
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Just pathetic. You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down, you are obsessed with a few months data showing an increase (yeah, it always increases in summer, it is a seasonal thing. It could well be decreasing already, since we are at the end of august) You cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world. Instead you are going to look at a few months of data and run around screaming like a little baby that the sky is falling. If it wasnt so sad it would be laughable.
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Just pathetic. You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down, you are obsessed with a few months data showing an increase (yeah, it always increases in summer, it is a seasonal thing. It could well be decreasing already, since we are at the end of august) You cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world. Instead you are going to look at a few months of data and run around screaming like a little baby that the sky is falling. If it wasnt so sad it would be laughable.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down
Munchies_Matt wrote:
ou cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world.
When did I say any of that?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down
Munchies_Matt wrote:
ou cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world.
When did I say any of that?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
It is implicit in your arguing.
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It is implicit in your arguing.
These are your assumptions and they are wrong. Now, if you can keep aside your current assumptions and do not assume more, one can have a discussion. From the source website in your first post, I see this article.
Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012 at 4,571 square kilometers (1,765 square miles), but the issue didn’t get a lot of public attention until this week, when the skies of São Paulo, one the world’s largest cities, were blackened midday by smoke from the fires. The shocking descent into darkness prompted an outpouring of concern across social media, with the #PrayforAmazonas hashtag garnering more than 300,000 tweets in two days.
Article link[^] Do read complete article and put aside any assumptions that you develop before response.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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These are your assumptions and they are wrong. Now, if you can keep aside your current assumptions and do not assume more, one can have a discussion. From the source website in your first post, I see this article.
Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012 at 4,571 square kilometers (1,765 square miles), but the issue didn’t get a lot of public attention until this week, when the skies of São Paulo, one the world’s largest cities, were blackened midday by smoke from the fires. The shocking descent into darkness prompted an outpouring of concern across social media, with the #PrayforAmazonas hashtag garnering more than 300,000 tweets in two days.
Article link[^] Do read complete article and put aside any assumptions that you develop before response.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
lw@zi wrote:
Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012
If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.
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lw@zi wrote:
Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012
If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.
What about this? [Amazon deforestation at highest level in 10 years, says Brazil](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/11/amazon-deforestation-at-highest-level-in-10-years-says-brazil/)
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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lw@zi wrote:
Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012
If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.
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What about this? [Amazon deforestation at highest level in 10 years, says Brazil](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/11/amazon-deforestation-at-highest-level-in-10-years-says-brazil/)
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Er, yes, 10 years is SINCE 2000...
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No, because I am looking at the big picture.
