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Programming languages - fun vs. disciplined

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  • M Marc Clifton

    My journey through programming was like this: BASIC - boring Assembly - loads and loads of fun and really gnarly to debug and write FORTRAN - the epitome of discipline and the word "fun" doesn't exist at all PASCAL - more fun than FORTRAN C - fun if you like memory leaks and overwriting memory you don't own C++ - fun if you like the problems with C and the discipline of classes and templates SQL - fun when you get it working, inconsistent discipline, and like lying on a bed of needles until you get that cool SQL to work correctly and in the end you still are left wondering why it works and what the performance issues are C# - a good balance between fun and discipline Ruby - fun if you write it yourself, excruciating pain if you have to read someone else's code Python - fun when doing fun projects like working with Single Board Computers Javascript - fun if you write it yourself and are disciplined about it, but beware of murderous impulses when fixing other people's code Prompted from a chat with a coworker who pointed out: nowadays, frameworks and languages are opting for fun. The most fun it is to write in that language the better. And yes, I'm biased, as I love C#.

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    FORTRAN II - Fun and precise, but punching those cards took a lot of time COBOL - the Language From Hell RTN (Register Transfer Notation) - Wonderful fun, but tedious Assembly - extreme fun hpl - really fun, as you can rewrite your code while it's executing HPBASIC - Dull, uninspiring, and easy to get in trouble TurboPascal - the epitome of maintainable code, driven to extinction by C Ada - OMG! ATLAS - makes one nostalgic for Ada C++ - Like C, but lots worse C# - Finally, a decent, fun language again :-D

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      My journey through programming was like this: BASIC - boring Assembly - loads and loads of fun and really gnarly to debug and write FORTRAN - the epitome of discipline and the word "fun" doesn't exist at all PASCAL - more fun than FORTRAN C - fun if you like memory leaks and overwriting memory you don't own C++ - fun if you like the problems with C and the discipline of classes and templates SQL - fun when you get it working, inconsistent discipline, and like lying on a bed of needles until you get that cool SQL to work correctly and in the end you still are left wondering why it works and what the performance issues are C# - a good balance between fun and discipline Ruby - fun if you write it yourself, excruciating pain if you have to read someone else's code Python - fun when doing fun projects like working with Single Board Computers Javascript - fun if you write it yourself and are disciplined about it, but beware of murderous impulses when fixing other people's code Prompted from a chat with a coworker who pointed out: nowadays, frameworks and languages are opting for fun. The most fun it is to write in that language the better. And yes, I'm biased, as I love C#.

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      ormonds
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      FORTRAN was like my first girlfriend - makes me nostalgic but I wouldn't want to go back there.

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        The company I worked for pre-covid induced trip to Pub, had a whole load of applications in Delphi, they had to update so went on a quest to find an upto date compiler, last I saw was 2006 there appears to be more upto version... any clues where and how? :confused:

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        The latest version is Delphi 10.5 (I am still on 10.3). Check Embarcadero's website. Community (free) edition is downloadable.

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        • S Stuart Dootson

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          if there were C++-compilers throwing errors or at least warnings on decades-old idioms, that would be nice

          I know it's not a compiler, but [clang-tidy, with its `modernize-*` warning set, will do that (and will also make fixes if you let it)](https://www.kdab.com/clang-tidy-part-1-modernize-source-code-using-c11c14/).

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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          Doing a project in C++ in the meanwhile, clang-tidy can optionally be used from Visual Studio. I use it in release builds as it increased the build time by about an order of magnitude from compiling without it (and precompiled headers) and it helped me in a couple places already. Thank you!

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