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  • raddevusR raddevus

    How much can you sell it for? And/or can you get 1 million (or more) devs to use it? That's our modern (cynical) measure for success so get on board. :rolleyes:

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    raddevus wrote:

    How much can you sell it for?

    That's capitalism, and htcw does not believe in that. :)

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    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

      I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      Sure, C++ is love, but at what price does this "love" cost? your soul, I am sure. We are talking about C++ here. :laugh:

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      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

        I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        What's a line of code?

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          What's a line of code?

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          honey the codewitch
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          magic! :laugh:

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          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

            It doesn't really do garbage collection as such. As an analogy imagine the garbage man came once a week and burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash. You can't actually delete objects in my scheme, only allocate to pools. You can recycle entire pools though, manually, freeing (invalidating) all pointers (or objects) therein. Doing it that way makes it fast fast fast and it works on constrained memory environments. Also it was easy to code.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            Sander Rossel
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            honey the codewitch wrote:

            burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash.

            How the heck is burning down a house every week efficient? :laugh:

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              honey the codewitch wrote:

              burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash.

              How the heck is burning down a house every week efficient? :laugh:

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              honey the codewitch
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              It saves you from having to take the garbage out. ;P

              Real programmers use butterflies

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                Sure, C++ is love, but at what price does this "love" cost? your soul, I am sure. We are talking about C++ here. :laugh:

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                honey the codewitch
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                My soul? Oh that old thing? I think I traded it for some concert tickets back in the day.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                  It saves you from having to take the garbage out. ;P

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  That's more like deleting your entire application to solve a single bug... :~ Maybe you just don't know how analogies work? :laugh:

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                  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                    It doesn't really do garbage collection as such. As an analogy imagine the garbage man came once a week and burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash. You can't actually delete objects in my scheme, only allocate to pools. You can recycle entire pools though, manually, freeing (invalidating) all pointers (or objects) therein. Doing it that way makes it fast fast fast and it works on constrained memory environments. Also it was easy to code.

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    Article methinks - I think you should write a book - *Random thoughts of a clever mad Witch* :-D

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                    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                      I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Also confusing language and libraries. e.g. C++ managed and unmanaged.

                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                        I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        Some of us find the light again. Some of us never lose it.

                        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                          I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          When I saw your post, I wondered how badly you were going to get flamed, given the popularity of C# on this site. I never thought this thread would stay so civilized, let alone be fairly positive. :)

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                          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                            I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            I don't hate C++, but I don't share your sentiments. This is almost certainly my own failing, though—it's not a problem with the language so much (which is alright, I guess), I just always end up fighting with the compiler/linker. I've never worked with C++ enough to become much more than minimally competent with it.

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                            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                              I gave it away under the MIT license. It was just a little bit of code anyway.

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              honey the codewitch wrote:

                              I gave it away under the MIT license.

                              GitHub link, or it didn't happen. :laugh:

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                              • raddevusR raddevus

                                honey the codewitch wrote:

                                I gave it away under the MIT license.

                                GitHub link, or it didn't happen. :laugh:

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                                GitHub - codewitch-honey-crisis/MemoryPool: Small fixed size sequential memory pool allocators for constrained memory environments[^] :laugh:

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  I don't hate C++, but I don't share your sentiments. This is almost certainly my own failing, though—it's not a problem with the language so much (which is alright, I guess), I just always end up fighting with the compiler/linker. I've never worked with C++ enough to become much more than minimally competent with it.

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  There's a certain point - and it can take awhile with C++ - where you reach a level that it is no longer intimidating or as frustrating. True, I did recently spend all morning and ask a stackoverflow question because I missed a "=0" at the end of one of my functions and was responded to with "missing vtable for class" or some such, but that's life, you know? :laugh:

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                    When I saw your post, I wondered how badly you were going to get flamed, given the popularity of C# on this site. I never thought this thread would stay so civilized, let alone be fairly positive. :)

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                                    I share your surprise. :)

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      That's more like deleting your entire application to solve a single bug... :~ Maybe you just don't know how analogies work? :laugh:

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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      No, that's basically how my code works.

                                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                                      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                        GitHub - codewitch-honey-crisis/MemoryPool: Small fixed size sequential memory pool allocators for constrained memory environments[^] :laugh:

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                        I see you're using both #pragma once and #ifdef include guards. Is that really necessary? GCC supports both, going back to at least version 4.8, so the #pragma doesn't even need to be wrapped in an #ifdef _MSC_VER. But maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you're using some other compiler that doesn't understand the #pragma? Also, picking nits, since I have nothing better to offer, I see that this is a memory pool for contrained memory environments. That must be a constrained, contained memory situation, correct? :)

                                        Keep Calm and Carry On

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                                          I see you're using both #pragma once and #ifdef include guards. Is that really necessary? GCC supports both, going back to at least version 4.8, so the #pragma doesn't even need to be wrapped in an #ifdef _MSC_VER. But maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you're using some other compiler that doesn't understand the #pragma? Also, picking nits, since I have nothing better to offer, I see that this is a memory pool for contrained memory environments. That must be a constrained, contained memory situation, correct? :)

                                          Keep Calm and Carry On

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                                          I used to put a test of the preprocessor in headers :

                                          #pragma once

                                          #ifdef HEADER_H
                                          #error pragma once was ignored
                                          #else
                                          #define HEADER_H
                                          #endif

                                          I have not used very many compilers but I never saw the error message. I use only VS now so I don't do that any more.

                                          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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