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  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

    When I saw your post, I wondered how badly you were going to get flamed, given the popularity of C# on this site. I never thought this thread would stay so civilized, let alone be fairly positive. :)

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    I share your surprise. :)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      That's more like deleting your entire application to solve a single bug... :~ Maybe you just don't know how analogies work? :laugh:

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      honey the codewitch
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      No, that's basically how my code works.

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      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

        GitHub - codewitch-honey-crisis/MemoryPool: Small fixed size sequential memory pool allocators for constrained memory environments[^] :laugh:

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        I see you're using both #pragma once and #ifdef include guards. Is that really necessary? GCC supports both, going back to at least version 4.8, so the #pragma doesn't even need to be wrapped in an #ifdef _MSC_VER. But maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you're using some other compiler that doesn't understand the #pragma? Also, picking nits, since I have nothing better to offer, I see that this is a memory pool for contrained memory environments. That must be a constrained, contained memory situation, correct? :)

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        • K k5054

          I see you're using both #pragma once and #ifdef include guards. Is that really necessary? GCC supports both, going back to at least version 4.8, so the #pragma doesn't even need to be wrapped in an #ifdef _MSC_VER. But maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you're using some other compiler that doesn't understand the #pragma? Also, picking nits, since I have nothing better to offer, I see that this is a memory pool for contrained memory environments. That must be a constrained, contained memory situation, correct? :)

          Keep Calm and Carry On

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          Rick York
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          I used to put a test of the preprocessor in headers :

          #pragma once

          #ifdef HEADER_H
          #error pragma once was ignored
          #else
          #define HEADER_H
          #endif

          I have not used very many compilers but I never saw the error message. I use only VS now so I don't do that any more.

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          • K k5054

            I see you're using both #pragma once and #ifdef include guards. Is that really necessary? GCC supports both, going back to at least version 4.8, so the #pragma doesn't even need to be wrapped in an #ifdef _MSC_VER. But maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you're using some other compiler that doesn't understand the #pragma? Also, picking nits, since I have nothing better to offer, I see that this is a memory pool for contrained memory environments. That must be a constrained, contained memory situation, correct? :)

            Keep Calm and Carry On

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            honey the codewitch
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            GCC throws a "#pragma once in main file" if I don't guard against them appearing. OTOH MSVC seems to like #pragma once to be in there for its source editors.

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            • R Rick York

              I used to put a test of the preprocessor in headers :

              #pragma once

              #ifdef HEADER_H
              #error pragma once was ignored
              #else
              #define HEADER_H
              #endif

              I have not used very many compilers but I never saw the error message. I use only VS now so I don't do that any more.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              honey the codewitch
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              I could do that but I'd rather recover gracefully. What I did compiles with no warnings and that's my major concern.

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              • S Slacker007

                raddevus wrote:

                How much can you sell it for?

                That's capitalism, and htcw does not believe in that. :)

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                I'm economically agnostic. No systems devised by humans survive contact with them.

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                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                  GitHub - codewitch-honey-crisis/MemoryPool: Small fixed size sequential memory pool allocators for constrained memory environments[^] :laugh:

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  raddevus
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                  :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :)

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                  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                    I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

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                    honey the codewitch wrote:

                    The only downside with it is it hides nothing

                    Actually, it does. Time to move to Assembly.

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                    • raddevusR raddevus

                      :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :)

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      I'm still kind of massaging the code. It's so simple it works as is and will probably remain basically the same, but I've tweaked little things like changed the template parameter from C to TCapacity I'm still not sure I like so I haven't recommitted yet but any changes will be minor.

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                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                        The only downside with it is it hides nothing

                        Actually, it does. Time to move to Assembly.

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        Okay that's fair, except I can't think of much I can't get to in C++ with the right massaging of the compiler. I can manually build vtbls, i can make call stack frames myself, typically, I can even drop to inline assembly if I really want. So I see it more as giving you more tools than ASM. I don't think it takes anything away.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Back in the days of yore, when I did my C programming, I discovered alloca(). Used inside of functions, instead of malloc() (for example), it would free allocated memory when you left the function. I didn't look into the workings but I'd presume it used the stack for memory. Update: Quick Search [^] and it's in C++, too - and it does use the stack for allocatons.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          One of the problems with stack allocation is on platforms like the ESP32 and most of the arduinos, they don't give you a lot of stack space. I know usually one grows up and the other grows down but I run out of stack declaring 2kB blocks sometimes so there might be some kind of artificial limit. That's why I usually use the heap for my pools.

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                          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                            I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            Rick York
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                            John Lennon said, "All you need is love."

                            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                            • R Rick York

                              John Lennon said, "All you need is love."

                              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              And look what happened to him

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                              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                No, that's basically how my code works.

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                In that case you may be related to Tom Jomes[^] :D

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                                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                  I'm economically agnostic. No systems devised by humans survive contact with them.

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  I'm gonna reuse the heck out of this sentence.

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    Sounds like you're in regression. Next year you'll be hot for C and after that you'll start a club with Codewraith doing 1802 assembler for your own Zwölf.

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                                    That would make 3 people in the club - though I usually prefer C to assembler, I like a good delve into the madness from time to time.

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                                    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                      Then that would be an actual garbage collector, which I'm trying to avoid. :-D Actually what I'm doing is kind of clever. I allow you to allocate a "MemoryPool" on the heap or the stack, and then allocate memory from that pool. It does not allow you to delete. However, all allocated segments are always contiguous and sequential, leading to a number of performance advantages. Instead of deleting single allocations you can freeAll() to reset/recycle the entire pool and invalidate the memory therein. It's actually quite nice for a lot of basic processing scenarios. it's just inefficient for mutable data where sizes can change - which it's not designed for.

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                                      Johann Gerell
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                                      That's what AAA games use (and maybe non-AAA too, I only know what DICE did, as I worked there) - arena allocators. When a level starts, it allocates from its own "arena", and when the level is done, the arena is wiped. Lessens the risk of memory leaks and gives full control and trackability of all allocations.

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                                      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                        I'm economically agnostic. No systems devised by humans survive contact with them.

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                                        I'm economically agnostic

                                        that is a copout, and you know it. ;)

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                                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                          When I saw your post, I wondered how badly you were going to get flamed, given the popularity of C# on this site. I never thought this thread would stay so civilized, let alone be fairly positive. :)

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                                          Nelek
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                                          The day is not over yet. :rolleyes: :laugh:

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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