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  • A Amarnath S

    On a related note, this is about Twatter 'Twitter does not believe in free speech': Twitter engineer recorded saying they censor the right | Daily Mail Online[^]

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    Super Lloyd
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    Oh.. poor right winger. Everybody hates them, it's true! ;P

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    • S Super Lloyd

      I have the have the, perhaps naively idealistic view, that one might occasionally find honest politicians in the small fringe parties! :)

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      I don't think that level of naivety lasts much past the point at which they are elected and see how big the trough they could get their snouts into, unfortunately. :sigh:

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      • S Super Lloyd

        As some of you might have been aware by some Australian post... Australian election are coming this Saturday! On Facebook, not as private message but on a wall, someone shared an handy guide to all the minor parties. I commented, and I quote from memory, the post has been removed "party X is a bunch of crooks, shoot them on sight". Now I was not really recommending to go full American and do a public shooting for real. It was more like a metaphor between like minded small group of friend, to emphasize how untrustworthy were those wanna be minister. Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer, thanks John Howard (even if you're a crook in other aspect). At any rate, The Algorithm told me that my post was inflammatory and has been removed, and I could appeal if I think I was misunderstood. I didn't, annoying but no big deals. In the past I noticed many web site have some heavy handed, wild blanketed rude language filter and they are just gonna ignore my complaint. Plus hey, I did use the words "shoot people". I mean obviously nobody I know (and nobody that would read that post) will think I was really advocating it, but, emm.. The Algorithm will think I mean my word. The Algorithm being as subtle as a 3 years old. Perhaps for good reason, according to the rumor I hear on the internet. But I thought about it again today... it was just one click away, should have I complained, what says you?

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        I did once recommend dropping a frog into the Christmas punch of a popular journalist on a social media site. The algorithm picked up the word "punch" and I was banned for a day. It takes a little skill to word things in a manner that will not get the pearl clutching algorithms from taking things out of context. (For those not in the know "punch" is a drink)

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        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        • A Amarnath S

          On a related note, this is about Twatter 'Twitter does not believe in free speech': Twitter engineer recorded saying they censor the right | Daily Mail Online[^]

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          Ah, the good old Daily Fail. The paper that campaigned vigorously against the "yellow peril" of Chinese immigrants. The paper which campaigned against granting women and lower-class men the right to vote, and against granting independence to India. The paper that supported the actual Nazis (right up until it became apparent they were going to lose). The paper that was a big fan of apartheid. The paper that wanted to identify and abort homosexual foetuses based on a so-called "gay gene" test. The paper that recently partnered with The People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese communist party. And that's before you get to the Fail Online's "sidebar of shame", which was infamous for perving over predominantly female - and sometimes even underage - celebrities. But sure, we'll pay attention when they criticize the perceived behaviour of another website. :laugh:


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          • S Super Lloyd

            I have the have the, perhaps naively idealistic view, that one might occasionally find honest politicians in the small fringe parties! :)

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            You should think yourself lucky, we have the best politicians that money can buy. ;P

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              I did once recommend dropping a frog into the Christmas punch of a popular journalist on a social media site. The algorithm picked up the word "punch" and I was banned for a day. It takes a little skill to word things in a manner that will not get the pearl clutching algorithms from taking things out of context. (For those not in the know "punch" is a drink)

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              haha, damn!

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                You should think yourself lucky, we have the best politicians that money can buy. ;P

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                Super Lloyd
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                fair dinkum! :laugh: ;P

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                  You should think yourself lucky, we have the best politicians that money can buy. ;P

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                  Richard Deeming
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                  Whoever paid for our lot should be asking for a refund. :laugh:


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                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                    Ah, the good old Daily Fail. The paper that campaigned vigorously against the "yellow peril" of Chinese immigrants. The paper which campaigned against granting women and lower-class men the right to vote, and against granting independence to India. The paper that supported the actual Nazis (right up until it became apparent they were going to lose). The paper that was a big fan of apartheid. The paper that wanted to identify and abort homosexual foetuses based on a so-called "gay gene" test. The paper that recently partnered with The People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese communist party. And that's before you get to the Fail Online's "sidebar of shame", which was infamous for perving over predominantly female - and sometimes even underage - celebrities. But sure, we'll pay attention when they criticize the perceived behaviour of another website. :laugh:


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                    Being an Indian, I am not sure of the veracity of British websites and newspapers. Just gave the news from one of the sites. I find the same news being reported on a dozen Indian websites, and here is a sample link - 'Commie As F***...' Twitter engineer makes explosive claims[^]

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                    • A Amarnath S

                      Being an Indian, I am not sure of the veracity of British websites and newspapers. Just gave the news from one of the sites. I find the same news being reported on a dozen Indian websites, and here is a sample link - 'Commie As F***...' Twitter engineer makes explosive claims[^]

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      Amarnath S wrote:

                      the veracity of British websites and newspapers

                      Most are about as trustworthy as our politicians. :laugh:


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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        As some of you might have been aware by some Australian post... Australian election are coming this Saturday! On Facebook, not as private message but on a wall, someone shared an handy guide to all the minor parties. I commented, and I quote from memory, the post has been removed "party X is a bunch of crooks, shoot them on sight". Now I was not really recommending to go full American and do a public shooting for real. It was more like a metaphor between like minded small group of friend, to emphasize how untrustworthy were those wanna be minister. Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer, thanks John Howard (even if you're a crook in other aspect). At any rate, The Algorithm told me that my post was inflammatory and has been removed, and I could appeal if I think I was misunderstood. I didn't, annoying but no big deals. In the past I noticed many web site have some heavy handed, wild blanketed rude language filter and they are just gonna ignore my complaint. Plus hey, I did use the words "shoot people". I mean obviously nobody I know (and nobody that would read that post) will think I was really advocating it, but, emm.. The Algorithm will think I mean my word. The Algorithm being as subtle as a 3 years old. Perhaps for good reason, according to the rumor I hear on the internet. But I thought about it again today... it was just one click away, should have I complained, what says you?

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                        It's about all that a company can do to adhere to EU law; some stuff needs to be removed in 24hrs. You should complain, because it makes you feel better, but don't expect any changes.

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          Ah, the good old Daily Fail. The paper that campaigned vigorously against the "yellow peril" of Chinese immigrants. The paper which campaigned against granting women and lower-class men the right to vote, and against granting independence to India. The paper that supported the actual Nazis (right up until it became apparent they were going to lose). The paper that was a big fan of apartheid. The paper that wanted to identify and abort homosexual foetuses based on a so-called "gay gene" test. The paper that recently partnered with The People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese communist party. And that's before you get to the Fail Online's "sidebar of shame", which was infamous for perving over predominantly female - and sometimes even underage - celebrities. But sure, we'll pay attention when they criticize the perceived behaviour of another website. :laugh:


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                          Ha! When all else fails, blame the source! :rolleyes:

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                            Ha! When all else fails, blame the source! :rolleyes:

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                            Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't realise we weren't allowed to blame the gutter-press for things they'd actually done. :laugh: I can only assume you're not familiar with Viscount Rothermere's "Tory Propaganda Rag", aka the Daily Mail. Essentially, they're about as trustworthy a news-source as the drunk guy down the pub who claims to be The Proclaimers' uncle.


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                              Ah, the good old Daily Fail. The paper that campaigned vigorously against the "yellow peril" of Chinese immigrants. The paper which campaigned against granting women and lower-class men the right to vote, and against granting independence to India. The paper that supported the actual Nazis (right up until it became apparent they were going to lose). The paper that was a big fan of apartheid. The paper that wanted to identify and abort homosexual foetuses based on a so-called "gay gene" test. The paper that recently partnered with The People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese communist party. And that's before you get to the Fail Online's "sidebar of shame", which was infamous for perving over predominantly female - and sometimes even underage - celebrities. But sure, we'll pay attention when they criticize the perceived behaviour of another website. :laugh:


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                              That was one long-winded logical fallacy.

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                                That was one long-winded logical fallacy.

                                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                I think they prefer the name "The Daily Mail"; calling it "Long-Winded Logical Fallacy" wouldn't sell as many papers. :laugh:


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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't realise we weren't allowed to blame the gutter-press for things they'd actually done. :laugh: I can only assume you're not familiar with Viscount Rothermere's "Tory Propaganda Rag", aka the Daily Mail. Essentially, they're about as trustworthy a news-source as the drunk guy down the pub who claims to be The Proclaimers' uncle.


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                                  Richard Deeming wrote:

                                  I can only assume you're not familiar with Viscount Rothermere's "Tory Propaganda Rag", aka the Daily Mail. Essentially, they're about as trustworthy a news-source as the drunk guy down the pub who claims to be The Proclaimers' uncle.

                                  Ahhh... the British version of CNN. :thumbsup:

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    As some of you might have been aware by some Australian post... Australian election are coming this Saturday! On Facebook, not as private message but on a wall, someone shared an handy guide to all the minor parties. I commented, and I quote from memory, the post has been removed "party X is a bunch of crooks, shoot them on sight". Now I was not really recommending to go full American and do a public shooting for real. It was more like a metaphor between like minded small group of friend, to emphasize how untrustworthy were those wanna be minister. Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer, thanks John Howard (even if you're a crook in other aspect). At any rate, The Algorithm told me that my post was inflammatory and has been removed, and I could appeal if I think I was misunderstood. I didn't, annoying but no big deals. In the past I noticed many web site have some heavy handed, wild blanketed rude language filter and they are just gonna ignore my complaint. Plus hey, I did use the words "shoot people". I mean obviously nobody I know (and nobody that would read that post) will think I was really advocating it, but, emm.. The Algorithm will think I mean my word. The Algorithm being as subtle as a 3 years old. Perhaps for good reason, according to the rumor I hear on the internet. But I thought about it again today... it was just one click away, should have I complained, what says you?

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                                    Super Lloyd wrote:

                                    Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer...

                                    So the bad guys surrendered their guns? Since you can't own a gun for reasons of self defense, how do Aussies protect themselves in the face of imminent danger?

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                                      As some of you might have been aware by some Australian post... Australian election are coming this Saturday! On Facebook, not as private message but on a wall, someone shared an handy guide to all the minor parties. I commented, and I quote from memory, the post has been removed "party X is a bunch of crooks, shoot them on sight". Now I was not really recommending to go full American and do a public shooting for real. It was more like a metaphor between like minded small group of friend, to emphasize how untrustworthy were those wanna be minister. Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer, thanks John Howard (even if you're a crook in other aspect). At any rate, The Algorithm told me that my post was inflammatory and has been removed, and I could appeal if I think I was misunderstood. I didn't, annoying but no big deals. In the past I noticed many web site have some heavy handed, wild blanketed rude language filter and they are just gonna ignore my complaint. Plus hey, I did use the words "shoot people". I mean obviously nobody I know (and nobody that would read that post) will think I was really advocating it, but, emm.. The Algorithm will think I mean my word. The Algorithm being as subtle as a 3 years old. Perhaps for good reason, according to the rumor I hear on the internet. But I thought about it again today... it was just one click away, should have I complained, what says you?

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                                      John Howard?! I remember a T-shirt or a placard bearing the words “John Hunt is a Coward”!😂😂😂

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        I think they prefer the name "The Daily Mail"; calling it "Long-Winded Logical Fallacy" wouldn't sell as many papers. :laugh:


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                                        I wasn't talking about the name of the paper. :)

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                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          Plus we don't have a tradition of public shooting here, I mean we did but no longer...

                                          So the bad guys surrendered their guns? Since you can't own a gun for reasons of self defense, how do Aussies protect themselves in the face of imminent danger?

                                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                          "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                          For the run of the mill Aussie the "imminent danger" also does not carry a gun, this does preclude the criminal/gang elements who are thoroughly weponised. Some areas are setting up vigilante groups to protect themselves against youth crime gangs.

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