The Windows 11 task bar is functional again!
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined
Frankly speaking, quite easily. I would hate to have thousands buttons open in my taskbar, I prefer them grouped for each application - and hovering allows you to see exactly which one you want to use (as opposed to have all buttons starting with "MS-Excel - bla" and having to look for the correct one.)
Sander Rossel wrote:
(hovering over the combined button)
is not extra step, to click on a button you need to hover it.
Sander Rossel wrote:
it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open
Just hover, and there they are displayed in a line. I think it is all a matter of taste :)
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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Single click to switch between different instances of the same program? Good news.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined
Frankly speaking, quite easily. I would hate to have thousands buttons open in my taskbar, I prefer them grouped for each application - and hovering allows you to see exactly which one you want to use (as opposed to have all buttons starting with "MS-Excel - bla" and having to look for the correct one.)
Sander Rossel wrote:
(hovering over the combined button)
is not extra step, to click on a button you need to hover it.
Sander Rossel wrote:
it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open
Just hover, and there they are displayed in a line. I think it is all a matter of taste :)
It depends on how you work. I open the same programs in order every day. That includes 2 copies of explorer on specific directories. I'm able to get to exactly what I want quickly before W11. Then with W11, I now have to hover and look to see which one I'm getting. It is an extra time consuming step and gets frustrating doing this all day. For my personality and work flow, its a huge time saver and convenience. I can't wait to get this update installed. Plus ignoring all above, most of my task bar was empty after the switch to combined. What is the point of having it if most of it is never used with combining?
Hogan
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing.
What's this work thing you speak of? :confused:
Jeremy Falcon
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined
Frankly speaking, quite easily. I would hate to have thousands buttons open in my taskbar, I prefer them grouped for each application - and hovering allows you to see exactly which one you want to use (as opposed to have all buttons starting with "MS-Excel - bla" and having to look for the correct one.)
Sander Rossel wrote:
(hovering over the combined button)
is not extra step, to click on a button you need to hover it.
Sander Rossel wrote:
it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open
Just hover, and there they are displayed in a line. I think it is all a matter of taste :)
Rage wrote:
Frankly speaking, quite easily. I would hate to have thousands buttons open in my taskbar, I prefer them grouped for each application - and hovering allows you to see exactly which one you want to use (as opposed to have all buttons starting with "MS-Excel - bla" and having to look for the correct one.)
Agreed. It's the same way on a Mac and that's something I'm used to. Besides, Alt+Esc will cycle through open windows anyway. Glad they at least put the option back for those that prefer it though. But also glad there is a grouping.
Jeremy Falcon
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It depends on how you work. I open the same programs in order every day. That includes 2 copies of explorer on specific directories. I'm able to get to exactly what I want quickly before W11. Then with W11, I now have to hover and look to see which one I'm getting. It is an extra time consuming step and gets frustrating doing this all day. For my personality and work flow, its a huge time saver and convenience. I can't wait to get this update installed. Plus ignoring all above, most of my task bar was empty after the switch to combined. What is the point of having it if most of it is never used with combining?
Hogan
Alt+Esc or Windows Key+Tab would be your BFF.
Jeremy Falcon
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Alt+Esc or Windows Key+Tab would be your BFF.
Jeremy Falcon
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Still an extra step vs being able to see each program spread across the task bar with text.
Hogan
It's also more clutter. Glad they put the option back and all, but personally I like the grouping.
Jeremy Falcon
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Still an extra step vs being able to see each program spread across the task bar with text.
Hogan
To be fair, one of the annoying things grouping does do... it makes it a bit harder to tell which window is which in the stack order. So, totally get it.
Jeremy Falcon
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing.
What's this work thing you speak of? :confused:
Jeremy Falcon
I'm on W10, not W11, but had to go into taskbar settings to find out what these "labels" are that Sander's referring to. Never seen them before, and now I know what they are, will never see them again! If there are multiple windows open for an app I just hover and choose from the thumbnail.
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place,
I suspect nobody decided the feature had to be removed. Probably, the whole thing had to be re-implemented (because god forgive, they should be able to write re-usable code), and someone never got the time needed to reimplement it, and someone else decided they're not going to hold back the release for that, if it can be reintroduced later. As a software developer, I'm of the firm belief this should never be allowed to happen. If a feature exists in version X, and it's useful and people use it, version X+1 should not ship without it.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place,
I suspect nobody decided the feature had to be removed. Probably, the whole thing had to be re-implemented (because god forgive, they should be able to write re-usable code), and someone never got the time needed to reimplement it, and someone else decided they're not going to hold back the release for that, if it can be reintroduced later. As a software developer, I'm of the firm belief this should never be allowed to happen. If a feature exists in version X, and it's useful and people use it, version X+1 should not ship without it.
That's actually exactly how it went :) So indeed, "removed" should be "not re-implemented for release". Still took them long enough for such an important feature (and it shouldn't even be a feature, it's long been the default) X|
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I just installed the latest Windows 11 updates and the task bar finally has the option to never combine buttons and hide labels again! Been using ExplorerPatcher for a year now to fix what had been working for nearly thirty years. Unfortunately, ExplorerPatcher occassionally messed up some other things, like the volume bar. I hope they also sacked the person who decided to remove that feature in the first place, dishonorable discharge! I really don't get how people can work with buttons combined and labels missing. You always need at least one extra step (hovering over the combined button) and it removes your overview when having multiple windows of the same application open, which is almost always (especially Visual Studio). A good day indeed!
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I still miss XP multiline task bars, having two rows is a huge help in order to have more available buttons, especially at 125% DPI as I'm forced to use due to horrible eyesight.
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